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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Dear RealTraders,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If I remember correctly the Dual Thrust system
was published in a book many years ago. Does anyone remember the author
and title of that book?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thank You.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Patrick.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
</x-html>From ???@??? Tue Jul 06 23:29:18 1999
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Subject: Re: Trading Gen: The Duck - Astology
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Andrew:
>
> > > Ps. Um... well, could I get a copy of the rubber duck indicator?
> You
> > > know... just for testing.... Honest, just testing! :-
> > Andrew.
If you had not put in the word "Honest" I would have
thought nothing about it.
But since you did I am going to assume you had other
thoughts. I do not know much about rubber ducks, but I
have heard, mind you only heard, that the rubber Sheep
are better. Opps, forgot the word indicator. They may
be a little pricey in your area because you are a
distance from the major suppliers.
Norman E.
Andrew wrote:
>
> I appreciate your enthusiastic energy. It is very obvious that you
> care a great deal about astrology, however, your argument appears to be an
> extended non-sequitor.
> The laws of physics are hard to beat. In any system where all components
> are in flux, and there is no frame of reference, then you can only judge
> relative location as compared to other components, (astrological bodies)
> from with in the system. Using the sun or the earth as a center if fine,
> but you must
> adjust the calculation to ensure that the sun or earth remain relative to
> their original placement when selecting a zodiac sign. According to my
> birthrate, I am Taurus. But in reality, I am another sign. (I don't know
> which one). Consequently, any predictions or horoscopes done for me must be
> incorrect. Garbage in, Garbage out.
>
> The end result is that the zodiac is out of wack. But I still like
> astrology, it's fun at parties.
>
> I want to stress my original conclusion. If it works for you, then use it.
> this was a very important part of my original post. If the rubber duck
> indicator worked reliably, I would trade it.
>
> I sincerely wish you Good luck and good trading.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Andrew <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <walt@xxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Trading Gen: The Duck - Astology
>
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Wrong! Your attack below is the oldest argument under the Sun by
> novices
> > trying to discredit our oldest science, Astrology. Yes, Astrologers have
> known
> > about the precession of the equinox and that the constellations are moving
> > approximately one degree every 72 years. The signs and the constellations
> are
> > not the same and haven't been for at least 2000 years. The only time the
> > constellations and signs were approximately in the same place was for a
> brief
> > time 2,000 years ago. We also know that the Sun is the center of the Solar
> > system. This was discovered and written about over 2,000 years ago, even
> though
> > the myth about Copernicus making this discovery continues. As for your
> claims
> > discrediting Astrology, Astrologers know that the Sun is the center of the
> Solar
> > System but most Astrologers use an earth centered Astrology when they
> analyze an
> > Astrological chart. This is because we live on the Earth so we are
> interested in
> > events as they relate to Earth, not the Sun. In the same way we perform
> this
> > analysis, we can also have scientific information about the Solar System
> yet
> > apply information in a different manner based on its relative practical
> value.
> > Yes Astrology does work. Does it work 100% of the time? No. Does it
> work
> > better than any other method of forecasting turns in the markets.
> Probably. This
> > is not the time or place for a scientific presentation on proving
> Astrology
> > valid. However for those so inclined, check the research of the Michel &
> > Francois Gauquelin who showed, using a 500,000 population, that where the
> > planets are at birth influence what career one pursues.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hear is something for you. Astrology charts that are used today were
> > > created thousands of years ago. (some time BC)
> > > So what... well, consider the movement of all heavenly bodies. The
> planets,
> > > stars, solar systems, galaxies that are used
> > > to establish the base reference charts, have moved over time. In fact,
> > > they have moved so much that all, astrology signs are off by at least
> two
> > > signs.
> > >
> > > If you think you are a Cancer, your not. Think you are a Taurus, Wrong,
> you
> > > not the bull, but something else. Pisces, Nope. Everyone's astrology
> sign
> > > is off.
> > > It's all out of wacky. So look at a chart, find your sign and move to
> the
> > > right at least two characters. that will tell you what the real sign
> might
> > > be.
> > >
> > > Now for all those astrology traders, think what this means. You are
> trading
> > > with bad data. When you look at mars aligning with Jupiter, you are off
> by
> > > 2000 years of the universes movement. (give or take a few centuries)
> > >
> > > This is conclusive proof that astrology is based on incorrect facts and
> > > false information and assumptions. In a word, it is all a bunch of
> > > malarkey.
> > >
> > > Now with that said, I must admit that I take trades based on Japanese
> candle
> > > sticks , including Dragon Fly Reversals. I have no idea why this patter
> > > works, but it has made a lot of money for me.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story.... if Astrology or anything works for you, my only
> > > advice can be: Use it.
> > >
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > Ps. Um... well, could I get a copy of the rubber duck indicator?
> You
> > > know... just for testing.... Honest, just testing! :-)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <walt@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:09 PM
> > > Subject: Trading Gen: The Duck
> > >
> > > > RTs,
> > > >
> > > > I originally created the "duck indicator" to show Gann and
> > > > Fibonacci proponents that charts tend to lend themselves well
> > > > to any ratio set. The indicator was created by developing
> > > > ratio sets from the measurements of a rubber duck.
> > > > Unfortunately, I don't have the original .gif charts that
> > > > went with the duck. I will have to create some new ones. :)
> > > >
> > > > The "duck" was found to call market turning points every bit
> > > > as well as Gann and Fib points.
> > > >
> > > > Walt
> > > >
> > > > ROBERT ROESKE wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Post a request to Walt Downs for the Duck Indicator.
> > > > > BobR
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: J. Rodney Grisham <grisham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: RAY RAFFURTY <rrraff@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 9:09 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Why so much tension, each and every week?
> > > > >
> > > > > > RAY RAFFURTY wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well put James. I have been a member of RT's for over 3 years
> and
> > > have
> > > > > seen
> > > > > > > the departure of many members who posted original and creative
> ideas
> > > > > > > (remember the Duck Indicator?), but who have departed or became
> > > inactive
> > > > > > > because of this type of noise. Lets all try to remember that
> before
> > > we
> > > > > > > criticize.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have not been on Realtraders long enough to remember the Duck
> > > > > > Indicator. Can you, or other long time subscribers, provide
> > > > > > information on it? All current readers could probably use a
> > > > > > creative idea or two.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rod
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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