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I appreciate your enthusiastic energy. It is very obvious that you
care a great deal about astrology, however, your argument appears to be an
extended non-sequitor.
The laws of physics are hard to beat. In any system where all components
are in flux, and there is no frame of reference, then you can only judge
relative location as compared to other components, (astrological bodies)
from with in the system. Using the sun or the earth as a center if fine,
but you must
adjust the calculation to ensure that the sun or earth remain relative to
their original placement when selecting a zodiac sign. According to my
birthrate, I am Taurus. But in reality, I am another sign. (I don't know
which one). Consequently, any predictions or horoscopes done for me must be
incorrect. Garbage in, Garbage out.
The end result is that the zodiac is out of wack. But I still like
astrology, it's fun at parties.
I want to stress my original conclusion. If it works for you, then use it.
this was a very important part of my original post. If the rubber duck
indicator worked reliably, I would trade it.
I sincerely wish you Good luck and good trading.
----- Original Message -----
From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Andrew <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <walt@xxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Trading Gen: The Duck - Astology
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Wrong! Your attack below is the oldest argument under the Sun by
novices
> trying to discredit our oldest science, Astrology. Yes, Astrologers have
known
> about the precession of the equinox and that the constellations are moving
> approximately one degree every 72 years. The signs and the constellations
are
> not the same and haven't been for at least 2000 years. The only time the
> constellations and signs were approximately in the same place was for a
brief
> time 2,000 years ago. We also know that the Sun is the center of the Solar
> system. This was discovered and written about over 2,000 years ago, even
though
> the myth about Copernicus making this discovery continues. As for your
claims
> discrediting Astrology, Astrologers know that the Sun is the center of the
Solar
> System but most Astrologers use an earth centered Astrology when they
analyze an
> Astrological chart. This is because we live on the Earth so we are
interested in
> events as they relate to Earth, not the Sun. In the same way we perform
this
> analysis, we can also have scientific information about the Solar System
yet
> apply information in a different manner based on its relative practical
value.
> Yes Astrology does work. Does it work 100% of the time? No. Does it
work
> better than any other method of forecasting turns in the markets.
Probably. This
> is not the time or place for a scientific presentation on proving
Astrology
> valid. However for those so inclined, check the research of the Michel &
> Francois Gauquelin who showed, using a 500,000 population, that where the
> planets are at birth influence what career one pursues.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Norman
>
>
> wrote:
>
> > Hear is something for you. Astrology charts that are used today were
> > created thousands of years ago. (some time BC)
> > So what... well, consider the movement of all heavenly bodies. The
planets,
> > stars, solar systems, galaxies that are used
> > to establish the base reference charts, have moved over time. In fact,
> > they have moved so much that all, astrology signs are off by at least
two
> > signs.
> >
> > If you think you are a Cancer, your not. Think you are a Taurus, Wrong,
you
> > not the bull, but something else. Pisces, Nope. Everyone's astrology
sign
> > is off.
> > It's all out of wacky. So look at a chart, find your sign and move to
the
> > right at least two characters. that will tell you what the real sign
might
> > be.
> >
> > Now for all those astrology traders, think what this means. You are
trading
> > with bad data. When you look at mars aligning with Jupiter, you are off
by
> > 2000 years of the universes movement. (give or take a few centuries)
> >
> > This is conclusive proof that astrology is based on incorrect facts and
> > false information and assumptions. In a word, it is all a bunch of
> > malarkey.
> >
> > Now with that said, I must admit that I take trades based on Japanese
candle
> > sticks , including Dragon Fly Reversals. I have no idea why this patter
> > works, but it has made a lot of money for me.
> >
> > Moral of the story.... if Astrology or anything works for you, my only
> > advice can be: Use it.
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > Ps. Um... well, could I get a copy of the rubber duck indicator?
You
> > know... just for testing.... Honest, just testing! :-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <walt@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:09 PM
> > Subject: Trading Gen: The Duck
> >
> > > RTs,
> > >
> > > I originally created the "duck indicator" to show Gann and
> > > Fibonacci proponents that charts tend to lend themselves well
> > > to any ratio set. The indicator was created by developing
> > > ratio sets from the measurements of a rubber duck.
> > > Unfortunately, I don't have the original .gif charts that
> > > went with the duck. I will have to create some new ones. :)
> > >
> > > The "duck" was found to call market turning points every bit
> > > as well as Gann and Fib points.
> > >
> > > Walt
> > >
> > > ROBERT ROESKE wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Post a request to Walt Downs for the Duck Indicator.
> > > > BobR
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: J. Rodney Grisham <grisham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: RAY RAFFURTY <rrraff@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 9:09 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Why so much tension, each and every week?
> > > >
> > > > > RAY RAFFURTY wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well put James. I have been a member of RT's for over 3 years
and
> > have
> > > > seen
> > > > > > the departure of many members who posted original and creative
ideas
> > > > > > (remember the Duck Indicator?), but who have departed or became
> > inactive
> > > > > > because of this type of noise. Lets all try to remember that
before
> > we
> > > > > > criticize.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not been on Realtraders long enough to remember the Duck
> > > > > Indicator. Can you, or other long time subscribers, provide
> > > > > information on it? All current readers could probably use a
> > > > > creative idea or two.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rod
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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