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Ridiculous........ let him speak.......... people can delete it if they dont
want to read it. Hey what happens if I say I'm not interested in
astrological stuff. This is America......FREE SPEECH. He's not slandering
anyone.
Good Trading Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: MR Associates International <mrasoc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: WitchHunts: This Is A Long Post. If you are pressed for time,
Delete This Post!
>I fully agree with James! Great description of the soul of RT ...
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> I was myself upset yesterday for Gary's boot out of the RT forum. So he
>probably wears sandals, speaks differently than us (I lived in Hawaii for
>four years and I know where he's coming from ..) and doesn't use GET, or NP
>... let;s face it, he's not like us.. so we got rid of him ... based on
>personal reasons, not market actions and analysis (although the "in crowd"
>tried hard to smear him with lack of analytical insight...) ... may God
>forgive us...
>
>Mike R
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Knox <knox1@xxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:30 AM
>Subject: WitchHunts: This Is A Long Post. If you are pressed for time,
>Delete This Post!
>
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>>John, Eddie, The In-Group, and the rest of us,
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>>I have been a member of this forum for over a year. Rarely have I ever
>>posted anything to the forum. I've been through MurryMath, the
>>Ratchford follies, and many other longstanding unpleasant grudges.
>>Having observed much of this, I can honestly say I have learned very
>>little about trading from the forum itself. Occassionally I do get a
>>gem or directions to a useful website, but for the most part I've
>>absorbed how to survive the membership: What to say, how to say it,
>>What not to say, and Who not to cross. None of this is useful in
>>trading of course, but very necessary to being a member here.
>>
>>The fact that someone gets removed is not the issue. The fact that
>>members can form a successful witchhunt is a little unsettling. We had
>>our own version of Nosterdomus. He called it his way. He explained it
>>his way, and the fact remains, it happened the way he said it would
>>happen. No one was being forced to read his comments or trade his
>>style. Personally I did not care whether he was right or wrong, it
>>wasn't my money on the line. It appears however that it outraged, the
>>In-Crowd. Why? I just don't get it.
>>
>>Let me say this. I personally don't have the SuperDuper Encore 3000,
>>complete with charts from the Ice Age during the first Global Warming
>>period prior to the fall of Atlantis. Some people do. I don't get
>>whatever it is they are talking about - not ever - maybe it's me, maybe
>>it isn't. I also don't get the complex formulas ....
>>[10 squared divided by the y-axis + Todays High - Todays Low etc.etc.]
>>and yet we have formulas for everything. But, I've heard it over and
>>over again, you can't pick Tops or Bottoms. The Market is always right.
>>No system works all the time. These things go in cycles ... yet forum
>>members go on and on, with great conviction about "what is going on in
>>the market." Does anyone ever get removed for this - I can't recall
>>any. We get a blast about Moving Averages - in depth - then finally
>>someone will say, "but you can't trade 'em cause they are all lagging
>>indicators." So, we get a guy who says "hold up a piece of paper to
>>your computer screen and observe the uptrend is broken" -or- the
>>infamous "BirdsBeak" theory. What's the difference between "BirdsBeaks"
>>and 1-2-3 Tops & Bottoms, or Predidential Cycles, or Planetary
>>Influences? The question is, how do we trade these "thoughts" of ours?
>>Unless someone is willing to step up and tell us all exactly what works,
>>I don't think they should be able to screen out what doesn't work.
>>
>>Ya Know Guys .... if I came into this forum and politely introduced
>>myself as just returning from a research trip where I correlated the
>>mating season of the African Spider with the DJIA Index, I would not get
>>"run." I guarantee it. I could say that my studies revealed
>>interesting comparisons on the 3rd week of every Month beginning with
>>the Letter "J." At this point a discussion would ensue about the months
>>of January, June, and July. I could throw in the fact that when Mercury
>>goes Retrograde I had a 100% accuracy level between the Afican Spiders
>>mating habits & the DJIA Index. Could anybody disprove me? No, because
>>we'd all talk about it, but nobody would start raising African Spiders.
>>As long as I properly labeled the topic "Futures: Afican Spiders," I
>>would meet our forum guidelines. NoBody on this forum would trade the
>>African Spider method and that would be that. So don't trade the
>>BirdsBeak, but don't censor it, please!
>>
>>There are a lot of people on this forum. There are silent participants
>>and there are vocal participants. We can't learn to trade, or how not
>>to trade with personal agendas intact. "Yes" is the open road, and "No"
>>is the path that ends all. A forum needs to express itself, without the
>>threat of reprisals (the boot). Was the man selling anything? - No.
>>Did anyone here buy anything? - no. Did anyone get burned? - no.
>>Did "some" people take issue to his manner - Yes ..... What is all that
>>about? So you disagree - Delete the Subject Matter - end of story!
>>
>>Why do we continue to do this? We are not all at the same level. What
>>bores you, might be of interest to someone else. A final comment to the
>>policemen of our group .... you can't save anyone from themselves. We
>>are all going to get our knees scraped and our knuckles bloodied. It
>>happened to you guys, it's happening to us, and that is just the way it
>>appears the learning curve establishes itself.
>>
>>If I've offended anyone reading this, then you are personalizing the
>>intent of this post. I have not quoted anyone, or singled anyone out.
>>There is a group consciousness to this forum. It's not yours, it's not
>>mine, it's not even John's or Eddie's. It is a Group Consciousness.
>>If it were not for John & Eddie there'd be no RT Group, and if it were
>>not for "all of us" there be no RT Group for John & Eddie. Could we
>>please examine the possibility, of a little more tolerance to different
>>points of view, and manners of expression?
>>
>>Have A Good Week,
>>James
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