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RE: Re: Re[2]: NeoTicker (was Re: EL to VB translator)



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>For example, TRAD chaged the buy-sell-exit orders syntax, obviously 
> >because they are brokers and they do not want lawsuits because someone 
> >was misleaded by these words. This may appaear stupid, but they live >in 
>a country where successfull lawsuits were observed from minor errors.

I'm no lawyer, but why didn't they just keep OMGA, and then start TRAD
as a seperate entity? OMGA could sell TS and TRAD could be the broker?
Not to say becoming a broker at this time was a good idea: maybe they
were looking at one of those "long only" systems for the NASDAQ.

BW



>From: "Pierre Orphelin" <sirtrade@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: <pierre.orphelin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: Re: Re[2]: NeoTicker (was Re: EL to VB translator)
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:50:27 +0200
>
>Glad to see that even TJ  agrees with the current TSPro market niche
>situation!...
>
>Well, I wanted to reply before this post but it would have been to say the
>same things reated to te Omega List paranoia:
>Any information that could be interpreted as the announcement of the end of
>TRAD ( a recurrent subject here) is always developed more than necessary as
>well as the TS replacement solution, all of the picture being illustrated 
>by
>the flight of a couple of vultures that expect to beat TRAD at its game 
>with
>their so called replacement, not to speak of the usual double precison
>basher that has added half a dozen of vicious posts.
>
>Nothing new under the sun,as usual,only normal evolution  and I have no 
>more
>info that that you know, but:
>I have  signed an agreement to sell the  2000i series and it is still 
>valid.
>The fact that TRAD do not sell directly is more related to their local
>situation and legal issues.
>Ths does not mean that the 2000i serie will disappear tomorrow, because 
>it's
>a still a mandatory solution for most of us oversea, not to speak of
>RadarScreen an OptionStation that TSPro still cannot yet replace.
>
>For example, TRAD chaged the buy-sell-exit orders syntax, obviously because
>they are brokers and they do not want lawsuits because someone was 
>misleaded
>by these words. This may appaear stupid, but they live in a country where
>successfull lawsuits were observed from minor errors.
>
>The 2000i serie will live until the need of it will not be necessary
>anymore. This is not yet the case, but some day the internet will be  good
>enough everywhere to cut off the satellite broadcast need.
>
>The way that TRAD follows is obviously the way to go, see Bilo's posts 
>where
>he is more enthusiast that I could be ( probably he does not have  5 -10
>ADSL failures per day).
>The analysis that he has done is a kind of to what I may agree without
>reserve.
>For the others frigthened members, I cannot do anything.
>
>An other word: We are completing the Safir-X pro version that will have
>portfolio capabilities and portfolio optimisation, all of that 100%
>automated by AI.
>I am also in the process of publishing realtime results, and moving to an
>other floor, so you do not have too much time these days.
>
>  Still sad to see that some are still concerned by classical brute force
>optimisation. At this time, I have not too much time to explain, but if you
>are still convicted  that two decades old technology implementation is 
>still
>a progress, I may understand why they will never understand the TRAD
>policy...
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Pierre Orphelin
>www.sirtrade.com
>TradeStation Technologies representative in France
>Neurofuzzy things for Tradestation
>
>
>
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : tradejack@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tradejack@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Envoyé : jeudi 30 août 2001 15:04
> > À : omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Objet : Re: Re: Re[2]: NeoTicker (was Re: EL to VB translator)
> >
> >
> > the problem as i see it is one of cost and time. on one hand, you
> > got one dude working 12 years on a system tester and it doesn't
> > even have charting yet (or ever will), and on the other a sw guy
> > arm waves how it won't be too difficult to build a ts replacement
> > using a non-internet dead dog like m3 as a server! give me a f-in
> > break guys!!! if this stuff was easily to develop, we would be
> > chin deep in trading software with ts capabilities.
> >
> > what u want costs money...and takes a shitload of time...period.
> > look at neoticker. slowly but surely it's coming along. and as
> > it's functionality increases, so will its price, as it should.
> > ppl who want this stuff bitch bout how much data costs, how high
> > commish are, yada yada and on and on. r u willing to pay 5K for
> > ts clone with portfolio testing and opt? probably what it would
> > cost per unit being that it's an small niche market. hell, most
> > folks won't pay more than 500 bucks for a used copy ts4 these days!!!
> >
> > so what to do? probably use ts til the day it dies....or i do ;)
> >
> > TJ
> >
> > hey, where's my bud fuzzy pete? surely he knows a thing or two
> > bout what's going on at omega/trad these days   :)))
> >
> > gary fritz wrote:
> > >BTW a tool already exists that does most or all this -- Trading
> > >Recipes.  But it has no charting module and (so far) no intraday or
> > >realtime abilities.  I want to be able to SEE my system as I develop
> > >it, AND execute it on the same platform, the way I can in TS.
> > >Basically I want TS with portfolio capabilities.
> >
>