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Re: Bruce Gagnard Trading System - Got a question for everyone



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William

"anyone who has spent untold hours of designing, developing, writing and 
creating a successful trading system"
So are you saying that successful system can be developed? If someone has 
developed such a successful system and having enjoyed the fruits is willing 
to share it albeit for a payment, what's the problem? To me it equates with 
running a seminar or a course by these so called professional traders at 
inflated rates.
My point is no one has a right to slam anyone.
As a silent reader I have detected  sarcasm, rudeness and superiority in 
more experienced traders.
As for help I put a call out on Friday for FTSE futures data, only David 
Jennings responded, he was unable to help because he doesn't have the same 
system. Between 26k-36k contracts are traded each day, isn't there any one 
out there who could help???

Robin

>From: "W. Parks" <parks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Robin Willaims" <robinwilliams15@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: "OMEGA-LIST" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Bruce Gagnard Trading System - Got a question for everyone
>Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 06:10:12 -0700
>
> >Up to now I have been a slient reader, I am newbie to TS but not to
> >investing. Soon after I joined this list I was approached in respect of
> >trading systems costing $$$.
> >I entered into correspondence, not because I was looking for an easy way 
>to
> >make money, or become a millioniare over night, I wanted to find out what
> >was available out there. I am not naive,I know there is no such thing as
> >"holy grail". Easy Language is not so easy and TS is
>a beast. Those of you who are more experienced what support do you offer to
> >newbies?????????????????????????other than rip them apart. No one has a
> >right to slam anyone.
>
> >Now let us have some positive comments and do something constructive, 
>like
> >some of you posting your successful trading systems ( I am interested in
> >futures) here and generating a discussion as to why the success, what 
>makes
> >it tick etc.
> >We "newbies" need support and guidance and I for one ask for it!!
>
>Robin,
>
>I don't think anyone here has problems with new people, but I fail to
>understand why anyone who has spent untold hours of designing, developing,
>writing and creating a successful trading system is expected to post it to
>this list just because "Easy Language is not so easy"?
>
>I've got a better idea. Why don't you read some books about trading, master
>EL, write your own successful trading system (this should keep you busy for
>a few months, maybe years) and then you post it to this list for all to 
>use.
>I'm sure you would be very generous in giving it away after having mastered
>all the above.
>
>What this list offers to "newbies" is support and guidance in TS issues and
>EL. If you've been a silent reader for awhile, you see the kind of
>questions/problems that are asked and addressed.
>
>Just by your comments, I have to ask, why did you purchase TS in the first
>place? I would think it was the ability to program your own trading ideas.
>So what are those ideas? What's wrong with the systems provided in TS? Do
>you understand how they work? What didn't you like about them (other than
>they're not profitable). Learn to re-write it, make it better, use the 
>ideas
>from the examples to make it work for you, develop your own style of 
>trading
>not mine.
>
>Ask specific questions, we'll do our best to answer them, but don't expect
>us to share the fruits of our labor with you. Besides, what works for me
>will not work for you because you are not me. Nobody hands out successful
>trading systems on a silver platter and nobody ever will. Even if some
>generous benefactor did, you would still probably loose your shirt because
>you would not trade it like the author intended it to be traded. Human
>nature.
>
>You want a constructive comment; here's my final thought:
>
>One problem I find with the so called newbie is he doesn't realize that for
>many of us trading is our business. Not a hobby, or a favorite pastime, but
>our livelihood. Many of us are the CEO's of our own one person company. 
>Like
>any successful business we have a business plan, only its called our 
>trading
>plan. Without one, you have no direction or idea of what it is you want to
>accomplish or how you plan to do it. I don't know of a single business that
>will share the inner secrets of it's success however I will tell you that
>the basic premise of my business plan is to take your money. Plain and
>simple truth. How I go about doing that is right there in my trading plan
>right down to the last detail. If your trading plan is to follow in someone
>else's footsteps, then yes, franchises are available. But beware, most of
>the purchased trading systems out there are not a successful McDonalds.
>
>William
>