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Re: Proposal about a new "Systems Only" e-mail list / user group...



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Dear Mr Selhi,

I have a proposal. Use your real name. You'll be taken more seriously.

Regards,
Bill Vedder

Bilo Selhi wrote:

> i have a proposal for some omega and code list members
> to create a new list  that will focus on trading systems only.
>
> here is the outline:
> - i have absolutely nothing against both lists. they are great
> but the problems are i think that there are a lot posts that are
> repeating, most  posts are trivial and not a lot of posts about systems
> because people are reluctant to post or open up due to sensitivity
> of material so we can take it one step further.
>
> - the new list will focus on trading systems and trading models only,
> bouncing and exchanging ideas, discussing personal experience with
> system design, participate in joint system design projects, etc.,
> taking  apart and improving existing systems, etc.
>
> - no other posts such as programming in general ( how to
> code this or that ), no data feed questions, no bitching about
> bugs, no "help me program this", no installation issues, no
> market predictions, no discretionary trading posting,
> no newbie questions, just pure systems theory math and the code.
>
> - no particular choice of  platform , we can use TS or TW
> or whatever. the main thing is the ideas. the implementation let's
> leave that out to ourselves unless it's something complex. TS could
> be used as a "common language platform".
>
> if we get into it seriously we can also go deeper , so
> to speak, that would be:
> - we can discuss advanced trading models,
> what needs to be done, how to do it, all the good stuff about the
> systems. the result might be working on the system design project
> with maybe 5-10 individuals contributing to the common goal
> which would be  "decent tradable system(s)".
>
> - now, i know people are going to be sensitive about posting
> some stuff or "opening up so to speak" including me first ( i am very
> concerned about this issue and probably more paranoid about that than
> the rest of you ) so some measures could be
> taken to insure the proper security, no software vendors allowed,
> no brokers, ctas and other individuals that are prone to sucking out ideas,
> i.e no idiots that can turn around and start selling it
> no hotmail.com addresses or yahoo.com, may be by invitation only,
> if necessary we can profile every one that's on the list,
> or do background verification to insure the "safe working place"
> so to speak. if this is too strict then we can set the security requirements
> as needed.
>
> - we can  make that mail list secure, not allowing anybody else to view the
> posts.some safe place where we "the brains" can get together and speak
> freely about the best ideas about system design without feeling that someone
> could go hind your back and steal your best stuff... the main thing is to
> keep the "trader" type individuals on the list and keep "seller" type
> individuals
> off the list.
>
> - we can outline a project ( not just ramble about systems ) and see if
> we can work on making a good tradable system. we'll keep working
> on it the right way, i.e. study, design and implementation. the result would
> be a working tradable system that we can then trade only for our own
> accounts. should the project be successful we'll  take it one step further
> by
> enforcing the "not for sale, lease, or institutional use" rule "for personal
> use
> only" rule thru NDAs,  etc... that's only if we get into something that is
> of serious value. otherwise we'll just juggle ideas, do some soul searching
> on systems, etc.
>
> - we'll need some brain power and the experience, so the preference would be
> given to individuals that have background in either in trading, math or
> programming. i mean all we need is 5-10 sharp  guys and
> we got the list started
> - e-groups ( or similar type ) would probably be the logical choice since it
> allows secure environment and ease of use...
>
> if you think this idea is a good one, drop me an e-mail.  i will see how
> much interest is generated and then we'll see if it's doable.
>
> bilo.