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Bilo:
It sounded so good, I was so gungho, and it was so easy, I just went ahead
(sucked out the idea) and set up a list....
http://www.egroups.com/group/systemtrader
>taken to insure the proper security, no software vendors >allowed,no
>brokers, ctas and other individuals that are >prone to sucking out ideas,
>i.e no idiots that can turn >around and start selling it no hotmail.com
>addresses
And then I read down and I realized I was "a person prone to sucking out
ideas" on four of the five counts mentioned above....well, at least you can
skip the background check on me: my prints are on file with the NFA and my
real name is:
Bill (AKA William) Wynne
Bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>From: "Bilo Selhi" <citadel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Code List" <code-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Omega List"
><omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Proposal about a new "Systems Only" e-mail list / user group...
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:39:04 -0400
>
>i have a proposal for some omega and code list members
>to create a new list that will focus on trading systems only.
>
>here is the outline:
>- i have absolutely nothing against both lists. they are great
>but the problems are i think that there are a lot posts that are
>repeating, most posts are trivial and not a lot of posts about systems
>because people are reluctant to post or open up due to sensitivity
>of material so we can take it one step further.
>
>- the new list will focus on trading systems and trading models only,
>bouncing and exchanging ideas, discussing personal experience with
>system design, participate in joint system design projects, etc.,
>taking apart and improving existing systems, etc.
>
>- no other posts such as programming in general ( how to
>code this or that ), no data feed questions, no bitching about
>bugs, no "help me program this", no installation issues, no
>market predictions, no discretionary trading posting,
>no newbie questions, just pure systems theory math and the code.
>
>- no particular choice of platform , we can use TS or TW
>or whatever. the main thing is the ideas. the implementation let's
>leave that out to ourselves unless it's something complex. TS could
>be used as a "common language platform".
>
>if we get into it seriously we can also go deeper , so
>to speak, that would be:
>- we can discuss advanced trading models,
>what needs to be done, how to do it, all the good stuff about the
>systems. the result might be working on the system design project
>with maybe 5-10 individuals contributing to the common goal
>which would be "decent tradable system(s)".
>
>- now, i know people are going to be sensitive about posting
>some stuff or "opening up so to speak" including me first ( i am very
>concerned about this issue and probably more paranoid about that than
>the rest of you ) so some measures could be
>taken to insure the proper security, no software vendors allowed,
>no brokers, ctas and other individuals that are prone to sucking out ideas,
>i.e no idiots that can turn around and start selling it
>no hotmail.com addresses or yahoo.com, may be by invitation only,
>if necessary we can profile every one that's on the list,
>or do background verification to insure the "safe working place"
>so to speak. if this is too strict then we can set the security
>requirements
>as needed.
>
>- we can make that mail list secure, not allowing anybody else to view the
>posts.some safe place where we "the brains" can get together and speak
>freely about the best ideas about system design without feeling that
>someone
>could go hind your back and steal your best stuff... the main thing is to
>keep the "trader" type individuals on the list and keep "seller" type
>individuals
>off the list.
>
>- we can outline a project ( not just ramble about systems ) and see if
>we can work on making a good tradable system. we'll keep working
>on it the right way, i.e. study, design and implementation. the result
>would
>be a working tradable system that we can then trade only for our own
>accounts. should the project be successful we'll take it one step further
>by
>enforcing the "not for sale, lease, or institutional use" rule "for
>personal
>use
>only" rule thru NDAs, etc... that's only if we get into something that is
>of serious value. otherwise we'll just juggle ideas, do some soul searching
>on systems, etc.
>
>- we'll need some brain power and the experience, so the preference would
>be
>given to individuals that have background in either in trading, math or
>programming. i mean all we need is 5-10 sharp guys and
>we got the list started
>- e-groups ( or similar type ) would probably be the logical choice since
>it
>allows secure environment and ease of use...
>
>if you think this idea is a good one, drop me an e-mail. i will see how
>much interest is generated and then we'll see if it's doable.
>
>bilo.
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