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Giovanni,

I never had in mind to state that Omega spies on users. I just repeat the
questions that was asked by my user.
See my comments below:

> The defragmenter that comes along with win9x (NT does not have a defrag
> util) does not 'free space', it copies data pertinent to each application,
> close to each other in the hard drive in order to make data retrieval for
> each individual program faster by not having to retrieve data for a
program
> in many different parts of a hard drive as opposed all in the same part of
> the hard drive.  In the End, all of the data is consolidated on one area
of
> the drive, and all of your free space is consolidated on the other part of
> the drive.
You right, the Defragmenter tell about 'Consolidating of free space'.


> Now, if you start a program that automatically requests 100 megs
> of space in the drive to be reserved, it will do it in the free space.
And
> moreover, this free space has not been overwritten by a blackout utility,
it
> simply has just been moved around in a more orderly fashion.
Excuse me, but WHY when I allocate 100 Mb on a hard drive, Windows can give
me ANY disk space, but when Global Server
does the same, the allocated space is ALWAYS with emails, address book, user
information and other very important data???
I just receive another email with the same situation! People tell me about
this, but they do not want to write to the list (maybe to keep their
privacy).

I would like to also state, since the underlying inference in these
> exchanges have been that the software is tampering with email, that the
> application simply, and in no way is capable of doing this.  This is just
> simply the case.  I am willing to find out what is happening in your
> situation, and look at the facts objectively, but only if I am granted the
> same cooperation and reciprocated with the same objectivity.  If you have
> already made up your mind that the software is accessing your email, then
it
> would probably be pointless for me to try to find the cause of the matter
> since I will be attempting to do so from a bias observer.
When I asked this question for first time, I wanted to know if this THE ONLY
ONE of my user's situation, or this is some more widely known issue.

Regards,
DB

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DB [mailto:dima@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 6:04 PM
> To: Omega-List; Giovanni Pugliese
> Subject: Re: Omega 2000i & privacy
>
>
> Giovanni,
>
> That's the situation from the point of view of one of my users:
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Both Outlook Express and Global server is not running. I deleted GSQF file
> and Windows page file and proceeded with Disk Defragmentator.
> The disk is defragmented (with free space clearing) now.
> I restarted Windows and run Global Server (in offline mode). I don't run
> Outlook Express!
> GSQF file is created and it contains my email again!
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Regards,
> DB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giovanni Pugliese" <Giovanni.Pugliese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'DB'" <dima@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Omega-List" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 17:45
> Subject: RE: Omega 2000i & privacy
>
>
> > Thank you for you response.  I believe that you are correct on your
> > observations.  It has been pointed out that when we allocate space on
your
> > hard drive, windows assigns us the readily available space on the drive
in
> > the order that the space is available.  if data has been marked deleted
by
> > windows and this data resides in the area that has been allocated by the
> OS,
> > you will be able to view it in external viewers.  As you are probably
> aware,
> > when data is deleted from your drive, this does not mean that the data
has
> > been wiped from your hard drive, its just means that the data has been
> > marked as deleted and that the space is available to be written over by
> any
> > application.  When we allocate the space, not all of the space is
usually
> > used as we try to maintain the cache file as empty as possible for the
> best
> > possible performance.  This means that there is allocated space that
> cannot
> > be written to by any other program, and may not be written to at the
> moment
> > by our own program, which you are viewing
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DB [mailto:dima@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 5:13 PM
> > To: Omega-List; Giovanni Pugliese
> > Subject: Re: Omega 2000i & privacy
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Giovanni Pugliese" <Giovanni.Pugliese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "'DB'" <dima@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "Omega-List" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 16:34
> > Subject: RE: Omega 2000i & privacy
> >
> >
> > > I would like to pose a couple of questions.  First, is anyone else
> seeing
> > > this type of behavior.  Mind you, tampering with the GSQF file is not
> the
> > > most advisable course of action since it is tampering with a major
> > component
> > > in the data collection process.
> > Giovanni, i was contacted by more than a dozen of people and all of them
> > have their private data in this file.
> >
> > >
> > > Secondly, are you sure that you have not associated the file with some
> > sort
> > > of document type?  This might be causing mix-ups with the file type
> > itself.
> > > If you notice, when you open the file using the 'open with' selection
in
> > the
> > > RB click menu, there is a little check box at the bottom right hand
> corner
> > > which states 'Always use this program to open these files'.  If you
> leave
> > > this check box checked, windows will automatically associate this file
> > with
> > > that program.  I have seen this cause problems in the past.  We have
> done
> > > the test you have suggested here and have been unable to see any data
in
> > the
> > > file that may suggest it's reading text from another application.  If
> this
> > > would be happening, I would have to think that there is some type of
> > mix-up
> > > in memory and would be very interested in tracking down the problem.
> > Giovanni, I understand the features of Windows interface. The file can
be
> > seen by external viewers, for example FAR.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DB [mailto:dima@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 4:19 PM
> > > To: Giovanni Pugliese
> > > Cc: Omega-List
> > > Subject: Re: Omega 2000i & privacy
> > >
> > >
> > > Giovanni,
> > >
> > > I meant the same - Global Server used this file for fast
> > indexing/accessing
> > > etc. Actually, this is a kind of swap (cache) file that is used only
by
> > > Omega, right?
> > > But this file contains the emails from the Mail programs (like Outlook
> > > Express) and files from other programs (documents from My Document
> folder
> > > and other).
> > > What purpose for?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DB
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Giovanni Pugliese" <Giovanni.Pugliese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 16:02
> > > Subject: FW: Omega 2000i & privacy
> > >
> > >
> > > > In response to these emails,
> > > >
> > > > The GSQF.Dat file is a cache file that maintains up to the last
three
> > > > hundred ticks of data for ALL the symbols that one is collecting for
> in
> > > the
> > > > server.  The size of this file is determined by the data feed which
> you
> > > are
> > > > using. The size of this file is between 100 to 150 megs : Actually
its
> > > > either 100 megs or 150 megs for DTN - Hyper feed I believe is 300
> megs.
> > > >
> > > > This cache file was done with a couple of reasons in mind.  First,
it
> > > > prevents corruption in your data file (The PDS file) since it is not
> > being
> > > > written to on every tick, but rather data is flushed into it every
> three
> > > > ticks, meaning that we open the file, write three hundred ticks, and
> > then
> > > > close the file.  Secondly, we are able to process the data faster by
> > > writing
> > > > it to a specialized cache file where indexing of the data is done
with
> a
> > > > 'linked list' concept for those c - c++ programmers out there.  I do
> not
> > > > know what exactly is meant by 'reading emails' or copying a windows
> page
> > > > file, since a windows page file is memory that windows allocates for
> an
> > > > application (Unless you mean that we are utilizing the area windows
> has
> > > > allocated for our application, which is natural since every windows
> > > > application uses its allotted 'pages in memory'.  I hope I have shed
> > some
> > > > light into these issues and would be more than happy to elaborate on
> > these
> > > > topics if you clarify your concerns.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Riccardo Ronco [mailto:riccardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:21 PM
> > > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; DB
> > > > Subject: RE: Omega 2000i & privacy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My file is 100 megs long... and I can't read it. What is all about?
> > > >
> > > > rgrds
> > > >
> > > > Riccardo Ronco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: DB [mailto:dima@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 17 March 2000 15:58
> > > > > To: Omega-List
> > > > > Subject: Omega 2000i & privacy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Several people wrote me that they have their emails, private files
> and
> > > > > documents in file \Program Files\Omega Research\Server\GSQF.dat
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems that Global Server copied part of Windows page file to
its
> > own
> > > > > folder for faster access to virtual memory. Or I'm wrong and
> > > > > Omega reads your emails???
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > DB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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