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RE: [Metastockusers] Re: Feedback on TradeSim sought



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From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Nielson
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:45 PM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] Re: Feedback on TradeSim sought

 

I hear you and you raise good points, particularly about Mickey Mantle's bat! :) However, I *did* a search for TradeSim on this and the metastock.com forum and found mostly people suggesting TradeSim as a backtesting alternative to MS's own system tester. Most people liked it, I gathered, but on what basis I can't really figure, since not many detials were provided. Without such specifics, I was hoping to elicit more in-depth replies other than buy it, it's good, it's a great alternative to MS's own, or I don't use it, that sort of thing. The only place I've found such details is on their own site -- it's not clear to me what their official homepage is -- and we all know that commercial advertisements aren't always the most objective :) Furthermore, it's not clear which version is owned by most. Is the Monte Carlo version that indispensible? I hadn't heard much of this theory before other than in Kaufman's Trading Systems and Methods book and, to me at least, he seemed not too enthusiastic. Are the lesser versions sufficient?


From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:39 PM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Feedback on TradeSim sought

There are plenty of posts on this board and on the equismetastock
group about TradeSim. You can search the archieves and find everything
you could want to know. The members don't need to reinvent the wheel
over and over when it's already there, if you'll look them up. Jose
uses it and likes it a lot.

TradeSim works just fine, but it's only as good as your skills at
system development. I've developed a lot of very good systems over
many years and still continue testing and developing. I don't use
TradeSim. I know the problems with the MS systems tester (which are
many), but I also know the limitations of systems testing in general
so I don't feel I'm missing much by not having TradeSim. Results from
TradeSim are no better in live trading than the results from the MS
systems tester. TradeSim is a really good product and professional
tool, but it's just one more tool and not an answer in a box. 

I've read many books on systems development and testing, which I
recommend you do before spending over $1000 for a testing tool. Don't
ask which one is the best book. Read 8 or 9 and you'll start to get it.

There are a lot of posts on here (and the big site) regarding the best
tool, the best books, the best indicators, the best system. Forget it.
You're going to have to screw around with a lot of stuff and figure it
out for yourself. It's about you, not the tools.

If you bought Mickey Mantle's baseball bat, could you hit the ball as
well? There are hundreds of bats for hundreds of hitting styles.

Roy's newsletter www.metastocktips.co.nz is the best MS tool. Roy has
a free set of systems testing tools, that while not a polished as
TradeSims, do produce very good results.

You'll learn more about trading from Roy's newsletter than anything
that TradeSim will do for you. 




--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Gary Nielson" <gary@xxxx> wrote:
> I am thinking of buying TradeSim, the backtesting add-on for
Metastock. I am
> interested in other's comments on its pros and cons, strengths and
> limitations, support, etc. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.






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