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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to trade FUTURES?



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When I get in a trade I trade the chart range of the Dow so when it 
hits a support or a resistance area I buy or sell it and put stops 
about 50 points above resistance and 50 below support for my stops. 
That is around $250.00 per mini contract risk. I always us 25 points 
also if I can't clearly define the trend. And if the range of the 
trend holds then I move my stop down to my buy area and let it ride 
down as far as possible to hit support or vice versa or reistance. 
Let profits ride and cut your losses quickly. You can always get 
back in.
KS.

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
<andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> When you catch a trend on YM, what do you trail by?
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > About 2 months on average.
> > KS
> > Just trade two mini contracts it is equal to 1 Big Dow contract 
and 
> > just exit all the positions at the end of day and re-enter when 
the 
> > Big Board opens again. Since the E-mini is electronic it is one 
of 
> > the cheapest round turn costs. You should talk to your IB about 
the 
> > costs. If you trade the dow correctly even the spikes at night 
don't 
> > matter on the mini dow because the gain is already in so the 
spikes 
> > don't get near your stop.
> > KS.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
> > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > KS,
> > > 
> > > Yes I'm noticing that mini Dow (YM) is more trendy than e-mini 
S&P
> > > (ES). The nighttime spikes on mini Dow are a problem for 
position
> > > traders so I'm looking at the Big Dow but I'm not sure how 
suitable
> > > the Big Dow is for retail traders -- for example, it is pit-
traded 
> > and
> > > I can't use IB for it...
> > > 
> > > How many days-in-trade, on average, was one of your 600 point 
runs?
> > > 
> > > Do you trade the Big S&P ($250 points)?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Dow has veen very trendy the past two years. I've alraady 
traded 
> > > > about 6 major trades this year. the prvious year around 8 
all 
> > year 
> > > > long. The average trade was about 600 points long and short. 
> > That is 
> > > > about $3,000.00 per contract on the dow mini and $6,000.00 
per 
> > > > contract on the Big Dow. Just multiply the profit with the 
> > amount of 
> > > > contracts and you can see it has been a very good year and a 
> > half.
> > > > KS.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > > > KS,
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you mentioned good trend trades happen only several 
times a 
> > > > year.  How
> > > > > many trades a year
> > > > > do you make on average?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >    Vladimir
> > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of 
> > formulaprimer
> > > > >   Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:26 AM
> > > > >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to 
trade 
> > > > FUTURES?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   One more thing. I trade between 1-100 contracts sizes of 
the 
> > dow
> > > > >   mini's.  The maximum position one could hold on the 
minis 
> > before
> > > > >   having to declare is 2500 contracts or it could be 
doubled 
> > to 
> > > > 5000
> > > > >   contracts I haven't checked recently. So it is pretty 
broad. 
> > I 
> > > > still
> > > > >   use the same money management plan.
> > > > >   KS.
> > > > >   example: with 1 lot I test the trend and will handle a 
> > $250.00 
> > > > loss.
> > > > >   With a major trend I will enter 100 lot and will suffer 
a 
> > > > $25,000.00
> > > > >   draw down with a profit to reward ratio of 3:1. I will 
never 
> > > > enter a
> > > > >   large position trade without a 3:1 risk to reward ratio. 
> > > > Basically
> > > > >   if i risk $25,000.00  I must return $75,000.00 in 
profit. 
> > Keep in
> > > > >   mind major trend trades happen a several times a year.
> > > > >   KS.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > > > >   <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > The funds move the market and the commercials hedge 
the 
> > market.
> > > > >   The
> > > > >   > big money is made by the funds and they trade the Big 
> > Board. 
> > > > The
> > > > >   > mini has too many artificial spikes from overnight 
trading 
> > or
> > > > >   small
> > > > >   > lot traders getting overdone in a situation. Basically 
the 
> > Big
> > > > >   Board
> > > > >   > is a more technically sound chart. This is always the 
case.
> > > > >   > KS.
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > > > >   > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > KS, one more: Why not chart the minis? Why trade by 
the 
> > Big
> > > > >   > Contracts
> > > > >   > > and enter in the mini contracts?
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > Thanks!
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > > > >   > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > I think the dow mini is $5 a point and and the 
full 
> > dow 
> > > > future
> > > > >   > > > contract is 10$ a point. That is what i go on.  1% 
of 
> > of my
> > > > >   > initial
> > > > >   > > > margin of $2500 is $25 dollars which is 5 points. 
This 
> > is 
> > > > of
> > > > >   > course
> > > > >   > > > when I do random entry technique. Other wise from 
my
> > > > >   experience
> > > > >   > if
> > > > >   > > > the dow moves more than 50 points against me I 
usually 
> > get
> > > > >   out.
> > > > >   > That
> > > > >   > > > is just my experience but it could be different 
for 
> > others.
> > > > >   > > > KS.
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > > > >   > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > I trade daily, intraday, or position depending 
on 
> > how 
> > > > the
> > > > >   > charts
> > > > >   > > > > > look.  The reason I say "no sleep" is that I 
don't 
> > put
> > > > >   stops
> > > > >   > in
> > > > >   > > > > > because all electronic orders can be viewed by 
> > other
> > > > >   traders
> > > > >   > > > because
> > > > >   > > > > > the real time quotes puts them up for 
everybody to 
> > see.
> > > > >   This
> > > > >   > > > means
> > > > >   > > > > > that stops will get picked off. You will 
> > experience 
> > > > this
> > > > >   for
> > > > >   > > > > > yourself, when it goes down to hit your stop 
and 
> > then
> > > > >   > proceeds
> > > > >   > > > to go
> > > > >   > > > > > back up again.  Since it is electronic it means
> > > > >   > instantaneous
> > > > >   > > > fills
> > > > >   > > > > > or close to it.  When the price hits my loss 
> > target I 
> > > > put
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > order
> > > > >   > > > > > in at the market, This is the stop process the 
> > Turtles
> > > > >   made
> > > > >   > > > famous
> > > > >   > > > > > and is probably the only thing that is useful 
from 
> > what
> > > > >   they
> > > > >   > > > > > originally did.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > KS, doesn't hiding your stops only matter if you 
are 
> > > > trading
> > > > >   > very
> > > > >   > > > > large positions? Also if you are using wider 
stops 
> > in the
> > > > >   case
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > > > > position trading (say 2 ATRs) then is getting 
your 
> > stops
> > > > >   > picked off
> > > > >   > > > > still a problem, given the wider stops?
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > >Of course I'm referring to electronic markets 
of dow
> > > > >   > > > > > mini and others. I do not trade the pit 
contracts 
> > > > unless
> > > > >   I'm
> > > > >   > > > > > position trading even then I prefer the 
> > electronic.  
> > > > The
> > > > >   > > > leverage or
> > > > >   > > > > > granularity you talk about is only relevant if 
you 
> > talk
> > > > >   > about
> > > > >   > > > risk.
> > > > >   > > > > > The higher the point value the greater the 
risk to 
> > > > reward
> > > > >   > ratio.
> > > > >   > > > If
> > > > >   > > > > > you are beginning i would recommend the dow 
mini 
> > > > contract.
> > > > >   > $5
> > > > >   > > > > > dollars a point and $2500.00 a contract. 
> > Volatility 
> > > > meters
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > > > price
> > > > >   > > > > > range can help with money management portion 
of the
> > > > >   trading.
> > > > >   > The
> > > > >   > > > Dow
> > > > >   > > > > > market are the easiest to trade because they 
trade 
> > in a
> > > > >   > range
> > > > >   > > > bound
> > > > >   > > > > > pattern. Take a look at a historical chart of 
the 
> > dow
> > > > >   > futures
> > > > >   > > > > > contract. Do not chart the mini. Trade by the 
Big
> > > > >   Contracts
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > > > > > enter in the mini contracts.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > This is a big disconnect for me. Why trade by 
the Big
> > > > >   > Contracts and
> > > > >   > > > > enter in the mini contracts? Why not chart the 
minis?
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > (example of my last trade would be: I shorted 
the 
> > mini 
> > > > sep
> > > > >   > dow
> > > > >   > > > at
> > > > >   > > > > > 10700 with a target stop loss of 50 points or 
> > $250.00 
> > > > and
> > > > >   it
> > > > >   > > > went to
> > > > >   > > > > > 10734 and collapsed to 10580 which then I 
exited 
> > at the
> > > > >   > market
> > > > >   > > > > > because it hit trend line support. I checked 
the 
> > stop
> > > > >   orders
> > > > >   > > > place
> > > > >   > > > > > at the time the market went to 10734 and the 
last 
> > stop
> > > > >   order
> > > > >   > was
> > > > >   > > > at
> > > > >   > > > > > that price 10734, then the market collapsed. 
So the
> > > > >   > reasoning is
> > > > >   > > > > > that if I could see it the big leverage 
players 
> > will 
> > > > move
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > market
> > > > >   > > > > > to pick off the buy stop and let the market go 
> > down to 
> > > > its
> > > > >   > > > proper
> > > > >   > > > > > trend.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > I see your point. Again, if 10734 was for a 
small 
> > number 
> > > > of
> > > > >   > > > contracts,
> > > > >   > > > > the big players may not have walked the index up 
> > there to
> > > > >   take
> > > > >   > out
> > > > >   > > > a
> > > > >   > > > > few contracts... but who knows. Your example 
uses a 
> > 50 
> > > > point
> > > > >   > stop.
> > > > >   > > > 1
> > > > >   > > > > ATR is around 95 points, so if this was a 
position 
> > trade,
> > > > >   > isn't the
> > > > >   > > > > stop a bit tight?
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > >My stop method is from years of experience in 
this 
> > > > market
> > > > >   > > > > > and requires the ability to immediately exit a 
> > trade 
> > > > when
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > target
> > > > >   > > > > > stop loss is hit. It does not matter if it 
goes 
> > back 
> > > > down.
> > > > >   > You
> > > > >   > > > get
> > > > >   > > > > > out. Any change in this money management 
technique 
> > will
> > > > >   > cause
> > > > >   > > > losses.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > Yes, I understand, discipline.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > One quick note : I tested with real money with 
a 
> > coin
> > > > >   flip.
> > > > >   > I
> > > > >   > > > > > entered long if it is heads and short if it is 
> > tails. I
> > > > >   put
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > stop
> > > > >   > > > > > loss at 1% or $25.00 or 5 ticks.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > I don't follow. 5 ticks is 0.05% of the Dow 
> > (5/10000). 
> > > > How
> > > > >   do
> > > > >   > you
> > > > >   > > > get 1%?
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > With this money management
> > > > >   > > > > > technique I was profitable.  Basically random 
> > entry 
> > > > into
> > > > >   the
> > > > >   > > > market
> > > > >   > > > > > with a proper money management system made it 
> > > > profitable.
> > > > >   > > > Trading
> > > > >   > > > > > is 90% money management 10% technical. I use 
to 
> > think 
> > > > it
> > > > >   was
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > > > other way around but it took awhile to figure 
this 
> > out.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > I completely agree. THanks so much for your 
> > comments, KS.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > KS.
> > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > --- In 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > > > >   > > > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > KS,
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > If you don't mind a few questions:
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > 1) Do you daytrade ES and YM or trade multi-
day?
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > 2) Do you see any benefit from the added 
> > granularity 
> > > > of
> > > > >   YM
> > > > >   > > > over ES
> > > > >   > > > > > > (i.e. YM tick is $1, ES tick is $0.25, but 
YM is 
> > 10x 
> > > > ES
> > > > >   > which
> > > > >   > > > means
> > > > >   > > > > > > ES=$0.25 and YM=$0.10 in apples-to-apples). 
Does 
> > YM's
> > > > >   finer
> > > > >   > > > > > > granularity allow your stops to be shaken 
out 
> > less?
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > 3) Leveraging cuts both ways, but e-mini 
traders 
> > only
> > > > >   > speak of
> > > > >   > > > it's
> > > > >   > > > > > > goodness (as you are confirming). Why is 
that? 
> > Have 
> > > > you
> > > > >   > never
> > > > >   > > > been
> > > > >   > > > > > > hurt by the high leverage?
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > 4) "Sleep is not an option because of night 
> > trading".
> > > > >   I'm
> > > > >   > > > assuming
> > > > >   > > > > > > vigilant stop placement for ES/YM end-of-day 
> > traders
> > > > >   > allows
> > > > >   > > > for
> > > > >   > > > > > sleep?
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > Thank you for your help, KS.
> > > > >   > > > > > > Andy.
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > > > >   > > > > > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > I can't speak for anybody else but I have 
been 
> > > > trading
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > Dow
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Futures and Dow Mini and S&P mini since it 
> > began. 
> > > > Once
> > > > >   > you
> > > > >   > > > trade
> > > > >   > > > > > > > them you will never go back to stocks. It 
is 
> > > > because
> > > > >   of
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > > > > > leveraging.  All the indexes move in 
direct 
> > > > relation
> > > > >   to
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > > > Stock
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Market indexes so any long term direction 
must 
> > be 
> > > > done
> > > > >   > with
> > > > >   > > > the
> > > > >   > > > > > Big
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Board not the mini's.  Be warned the Night 
> > Trading
> > > > >   moves
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > > > market
> > > > >   > > > > > > > tremendously sometimes and sometimes sleep 
is 
> > not 
> > > > an
> > > > >   > option.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Otherwise if your technical analysis is at 
a 
> > high
> > > > >   level
> > > > >   > you
> > > > >   > > > will
> > > > >   > > > > > > > like it. August issue of Futures magazine 
I 
> > think 
> > > > has
> > > > >   a
> > > > >   > good
> > > > >   > > > > > article
> > > > >   > > > > > > > on options.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > KS.
> > > > >   > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > > > >   > > > > > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > Vladimir,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > Thank you for taking the time to answer 
my
> > > > >   questions.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > In your experience, how would you 
compare 
> > trading
> > > > >   the
> > > > >   > > > index
> > > > >   > > > > > versus
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > trading the futures? For example, 
trading ES 
> > vs.
> > > > >   SPX,
> > > > >   > or
> > > > >   > > > NQ vs.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > QQQQ,... I know the leverage is very 
> > different, 
> > > > but
> > > > >   > > > besides
> > > > >   > > > > > that
> > > > >   > > > > > > > how
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > has your experience been?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > I have heard that once a trader moves 
from
> > > > >   > stocks/indexes
> > > > >   > > > to
> > > > >   > > > > > > > futures,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > they never return to stocks...
> > > > >   > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > > > >   > <entinv@xxxx>
> > > > >   > > > wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > From my experience future always track 
the 
> > > > index.
> > > > >   > For
> > > > >   > > > > > example
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > either you
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > trade QQQQ or NQ
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > the only real difference is the 
leverage.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > Comparing futures to equities if you 
mean
> > > > >   individual
> > > > >   > > > stocks,
> > > > >   > > > > > the
> > > > >   > > > > > > > future
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > never goes bankrupt therefore it's
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > safer to buy.  Futures, both 
commodities 
> > and
> > > > >   indexes
> > > > >   > > > appear
> > > > >   > > > > > to
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > better comply
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > with the technical analysis
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > studies in comparison with individual 
> > stocks.
> > > > >   Many
> > > > >   > > > > > individual
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > stocks are
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > not liquid enough to trade and
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > those most liquid would track 
corresponding
> > > > >   > > > industry/group
> > > > >   > > > > > > > indexes.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > Never heard about Track N TRade 
before.  
> > Looks
> > > > >   > > > interesting
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On 
> > > > Behalf
> > > > >   Of
> > > > >   > > > > > metastkuser
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 
11:56 PM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] 
Using
> > > > >   > Metastock to
> > > > >   > > > > > trade
> > > > >   > > > > > > > FUTURES?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   Vladimir,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   "It doesn't provide continuous 
> > contracts, but
> > > > >   for
> > > > >   > ES
> > > > >   > > > and
> > > > >   > > > > > YM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > you can
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   use SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you need 
> > longer 
> > > > term
> > > > >   > > > picture."
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >     -- yes, it occured to me that I 
can 
> > use SPX
> > > > >   > instead
> > > > >   > > > of
> > > > >   > > > > > ES,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > and DIA
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   instead of YM. But, does the future 
> > always 
> > > > track
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > > > > > index?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > Wouldn't
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   the future move much faster than the 
> > index if
> > > > >   the
> > > > >   > > > index
> > > > >   > > > > > made a
> > > > >   > > > > > > > sudden
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   large move?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   How do you like trading futures 
compared 
> > to
> > > > >   > equities?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   By the way, have you heard of Track 
N 
> > Trade 
> > > > for
> > > > >   > > > > > backtesting
> > > > >   > > > > > > > futures?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   --- In 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > > > >   > > > <entinv@xxxx>
> > > > >   > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > For EOD futures I'm using HSQuote 
from
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > 
http://www.downloadjunction.com/product/software/4358/
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > It doesn't provide continuous 
> > contracts, 
> > > > but
> > > > >   for
> > > > >   > ES
> > > > >   > > > and
> > > > >   > > > > > YM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > you
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > can use
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > need longer term picture.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > Intraday I'm using MetaServer RT 
for
> > > > >   > > > Interactivebrokers.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > I don't trade options on futures.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > Regards,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >     Vladimir
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   From: 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   > 
[mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > > >   Behalf
> > > > >   > Of
> > > > >   > > > > > > > metastkuser
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 
8:18 
> > PM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   To: 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock 
Group] 
> > Using
> > > > >   > > > Metastock to
> > > > >   > > > > > > > trade
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > FUTURES?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Vladimir,
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   If you don't mind answering a 
couple 
> > of
> > > > >   > questions:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   1) I'm only interested in S&P 
500 e-
> > mini
> > > > >   (ES)
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > > > mini-
> > > > >   > > > > > Dow
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > (YM). I use
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Reuters for stock/indices end-of-
day 
> > > > data. I
> > > > >   > don't
> > > > >   > > > > > want to
> > > > >   > > > > > > > pay
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > for the
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   omplete futures eod package. Do 
you 
> > know
> > > > >   where
> > > > >   > I
> > > > >   > > > can
> > > > >   > > > > > get
> > > > >   > > > > > > > eod
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > data for
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   just ES and YM?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   2) Options on futures. I 
currently 
> > trade
> > > > >   > options
> > > > >   > > > credit
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > spreads on SPX
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   and would like to try credit 
spreads 
> > on 
> > > > ES
> > > > >   and
> > > > >   > YM.
> > > > >   > > > Do
> > > > >   > > > > > you
> > > > >   > > > > > > > trade
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   options on futures? Can 
Metastock 
> > support
> > > > >   this?
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   --- In 
> > > > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > > > >   > > > > > <entinv@xxxx>
> > > > >   > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > Yes, I do.
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > Vladimir
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   From: 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > 
> > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On
> > > > >   > Behalf
> > > > >   > > > Of
> > > > >   > > > > > > > metastkuser
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 
2005 
> > 5:53 
> > > > PM
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   To: 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   Subject: [EquisMetaStock 
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