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  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:40 
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  Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early 
  trend stages
  
  Philip,
   
  I just wrote a 1,000 word article on a 
  similar subject: Tillson's T3's.  It will be in the March issue 
  of Lind-Waldock's newsletter.  As soon as their lawyers/liars give me the 
  green light, I will make it available to the forum (but, maybe I can forward 
  you my notes...without getting in trouble).
   
  As many know, Tim's adaptive moving averages (see 
  attachment for TASC January '98 article) are far superior to many of the 
  average variations you mentioned (and far superior to what certain vendors, in 
  my fine city, will SELL you).  I'm not knocking MACD or Jurik's 
  "stuff" or anyone's work, Tim's work is simply better.  Why?  
  His averages exhibit the desirable traits of being very "smooth", but they 
  are NOT sensitive to random noise.  The T3 modifies the "lag and 
  overshoot" and tends to eliminate the whipsawing that many traders experience 
  using simple moving averages.  A real thing of beauty:  very smooth, 
  but sensitive to significant directional changes (see 
  attachments).
   
  I trade with a couple dozen people using 
  variations of the T3's.  Most of us use them to mechanically scalp points 
  from the emini S&P market.  Although we are finding new and better 
  ways to apply these adaptive moving averages, one of my brand new favorites is 
  to replicate the T3 formula and create a T5 (five periods, instead of 
  three).  Then, subtract the T5 from the T3 (which, of 
  course, calculates the difference between the averages).  It creates 
  a stunning momentum oscillator.  We monitor it all day and apply it to 
  ten minute candles.  
   
  Philip, if you need any other help...you know how 
  to reach me.  I hope this helps.
   
  Take care,
   
  Uncle Steve
  
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    Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:30 
    PM
    Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early 
    trend stages
    
Greetings All,
By the time many of the more 
    popular trend indicators kick in (moving 
averages of various flavors and 
    combinations, the MACD, the ADX and even 
the PDI/MDI) the trend itself 
    can often be nicely underway. This seems to 
apply especially when price 
    action takes a sharp turn, as in a "V" bottom 
or an inverted "V" top. 
    The numbers feeding into the calculation of the 
indicators cause a lag. 
    Gradual changes in direction don't seem to pose a 
problem.
I'm 
    not trying to call tops and bottoms, but even a minor jump on 
    
conventional trend indicators would be helpful. To date, my efforts to 
    get 
a handle on the initial phase of trends after sharp market turns 
    have not 
been rewarding. I can't seem to conceptualize it. Can anyone 
    point me in 
the direction of published thoughts on how one could 
    approach this kind of 
market action? Or, would you be willing to share 
    some basic observations of 
your own? I can't imagine that this question 
    hasn't occupied many traders 
at one time or another.
If I should 
    simply "fugeddaboudit," well, that's a possibility too. I may 
be 
    cross-posting this inquiry. My apologies in 
    advance.
    
    
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