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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early trend stages



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Steve,

Thanks for sharing this with the group and making the offer!

Unfortunately, Yahoo does not archive the info that you attached on 
messages anymore. Would you mind uploading them to the files section 
so that we can refer to them at a later time?

Thanks,

Preston



--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading" 
<kernish@xxxx> wrote:
> Philip,
> 
> I just wrote a 1,000 word article on a similar subject: Tillson's 
T3's.  It will be in the March issue of Lind-Waldock's newsletter.  
As soon as their lawyers/liars give me the green light, I will make 
it available to the forum (but, maybe I can forward you my 
notes...without getting in trouble).
> 
> As many know, Tim's adaptive moving averages (see attachment for 
TASC January '98 article) are far superior to many of the average 
variations you mentioned (and far superior to what certain vendors, 
in my fine city, will SELL you).  I'm not knocking MACD or 
Jurik's "stuff" or anyone's work, Tim's work is simply better.  Why?  
His averages exhibit the desirable traits of being very "smooth", but 
they are NOT sensitive to random noise.  The T3 modifies the "lag and 
overshoot" and tends to eliminate the whipsawing that many traders 
experience using simple moving averages.  A real thing of beauty:  
very smooth, but sensitive to significant directional changes (see 
attachments).
> 
> I trade with a couple dozen people using variations of the T3's.  
Most of us use them to mechanically scalp points from the emini S&P 
market.  Although we are finding new and better ways to apply these 
adaptive moving averages, one of my brand new favorites is to 
replicate the T3 formula and create a T5 (five periods, instead of 
three).  Then, subtract the T5 from the T3 (which, of course, 
calculates the difference between the averages).  It creates a 
stunning momentum oscillator.  We monitor it all day and apply it to 
ten minute candles.  
> 
> Philip, if you need any other help...you know how to reach me.  I 
hope this helps.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Uncle Steve
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Philip Schmitz 
>   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:30 PM
>   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early trend stages
> 
> 
> 
>   Greetings All,
> 
>   By the time many of the more popular trend indicators kick in 
(moving 
>   averages of various flavors and combinations, the MACD, the ADX 
and even 
>   the PDI/MDI) the trend itself can often be nicely underway. This 
seems to 
>   apply especially when price action takes a sharp turn, as in 
a "V" bottom 
>   or an inverted "V" top. The numbers feeding into the calculation 
of the 
>   indicators cause a lag. Gradual changes in direction don't seem 
to pose a 
>   problem.
> 
>   I'm not trying to call tops and bottoms, but even a minor jump on 
>   conventional trend indicators would be helpful. To date, my 
efforts to get 
>   a handle on the initial phase of trends after sharp market turns 
have not 
>   been rewarding. I can't seem to conceptualize it. Can anyone 
point me in 
>   the direction of published thoughts on how one could approach 
this kind of 
>   market action? Or, would you be willing to share some basic 
observations of 
>   your own? I can't imagine that this question hasn't occupied many 
traders 
>   at one time or another.
> 
>   If I should simply "fugeddaboudit," well, that's a possibility 
too. I may 
>   be cross-posting this inquiry. My apologies in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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