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Tom,
 
Here they are together:
 
e1:=Mov(C,3,E);
e2:=Mov(e1,3,E);
e3:=Mov(e2,3,E);
e4:=Mov(e3,3,E);
e5:=Mov(e4,3,E);
e6:=Mov(e5,3,E);
c1:=-.618*.618*.618;
c2:=3*.618*.618+3*.618*.618*.618;
c3:=-6*.618*.618-3*.618-3*.618*.618*.618;
c4:=1+3*.618+.618*.618*.618+3*.618*.618;
c1*e6+c2*e5+c3*e4+c4*e3;
 
e1:=Mov(C,5,E);
e2:=Mov(e1,5,E);
e3:=Mov(e2,5,E);
e4:=Mov(e3,5,E);
e5:=Mov(e4,5,E);
e6:=Mov(e5,5,E);
c1:=-.618*.618*.618;
c2:=3*.618*.618+3*.618*.618*.618;
c3:=-6*.618*.618-3*.618-3*.618*.618*.618;
c4:=1+3*.618+.618*.618*.618+3*.618*.618;
c1*e6+c2*e5+c3*e4+c4*e3;
 
Only the periods are modified.  Please note:  Tim uses .7, where I have substituted .618.  Tim's an engineer and I'm a superstitious Fibonacci fan.
 
Take care,
 
Uncle Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early trend stages

Steve,
 
when you go to a T5, do you change anything besides the periods in the 6 ema's (e1 to e6)?
That is, do any numbers in c1 to c4 change?
 
Thanks
 
Tom
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early trend stages

Philip,
 
I just wrote a 1,000 word article on a similar subject: Tillson's T3's.  It will be in the March issue of Lind-Waldock's newsletter.  As soon as their lawyers/liars give me the green light, I will make it available to the forum (but, maybe I can forward you my notes...without getting in trouble).
 
As many know, Tim's adaptive moving averages (see attachment for TASC January '98 article) are far superior to many of the average variations you mentioned (and far superior to what certain vendors, in my fine city, will SELL you).  I'm not knocking MACD or Jurik's "stuff" or anyone's work, Tim's work is simply better.  Why?  His averages exhibit the desirable traits of being very "smooth", but they are NOT sensitive to random noise.  The T3 modifies the "lag and overshoot" and tends to eliminate the whipsawing that many traders experience using simple moving averages.  A real thing of beauty:  very smooth, but sensitive to significant directional changes (see attachments).
 
I trade with a couple dozen people using variations of the T3's.  Most of us use them to mechanically scalp points from the emini S&P market.  Although we are finding new and better ways to apply these adaptive moving averages, one of my brand new favorites is to replicate the T3 formula and create a T5 (five periods, instead of three).  Then, subtract the T5 from the T3 (which, of course, calculates the difference between the averages).  It creates a stunning momentum oscillator.  We monitor it all day and apply it to ten minute candles. 
 
Philip, if you need any other help...you know how to reach me.  I hope this helps.
 
Take care,
 
Uncle Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Early trend stages


Greetings All,

By the time many of the more popular trend indicators kick in (moving
averages of various flavors and combinations, the MACD, the ADX and even
the PDI/MDI) the trend itself can often be nicely underway. This seems to
apply especially when price action takes a sharp turn, as in a "V" bottom
or an inverted "V" top. The numbers feeding into the calculation of the
indicators cause a lag. Gradual changes in direction don't seem to pose a
problem.

I'm not trying to call tops and bottoms, but even a minor jump on
conventional trend indicators would be helpful. To date, my efforts to get
a handle on the initial phase of trends after sharp market turns have not
been rewarding. I can't seem to conceptualize it. Can anyone point me in
the direction of published thoughts on how one could approach this kind of
market action? Or, would you be willing to share some basic observations of
your own? I can't imagine that this question hasn't occupied many traders
at one time or another.

If I should simply "fugeddaboudit," well, that's a possibility too. I may
be cross-posting this inquiry. My apologies in advance.







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