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Ton
How did you output a text copy of your own indicators from MS for DOS?
Also, I run the latest version of TAS (I think) and it's not a Windows
program but a DOS program.
Regards
Guy
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From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of A.J. Maas
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:09 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: suggestions@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Faster MS Win 6.5 Explorations Using Cache???
<< File: UTF-8.HTM >> Guy,
Like mentioned earlier in previous mailings, when I upgraded from 6.0 to
6.5, I was
faced with the same conversion -of some of my own developed custom
formulas-
problems as yours, i.e. these customs being incorrectly converted to 6.5
standards
(some were plain mutulated, some got crippled and some "only" got some
minor-but-huge-affective-and-unwanted-adjustments made to them).
>From my previous HEX-mailing, you probably also know that at that
conversion-instance-
time, some of my templates and layouts got the same
"minor-but-huge-affective-and-
unwanted-adjustments" made to them as well.
Also, at that time, I was fortunate enough to be able to fix most back to
their original state,
as I had spare copies saved in Ascii txt-files.
But a shock certainly this was for me too, eg also at that time not being
such an
experienced MS-user.
Therefore, and explicitely and first off, any upgrades should have big
lettered highlighted
warnings in ReadMe-files and on CdRom covers, eg warnings to make spare
back-up
copies first, prior to/before installing, and as such making users better
aware to make
back up copies first, especialy spare-copies from the program's vital
dat-files that are
scatttered around in the C:\Equis\.......-folders (better, spare copy the
entire Equis
folder's hyrachie+contents lot to a C:\Temp\Equis-folder), and second, user
should be
enabled to just have to only click a button (anywhere within the main
program+sub
programs) to enable to copy any info to an Ascii file (Word,Excel), a common
"Save to..."-button in each of the variaty of program's dialog windows will
do for this,
and this also as MetaStock is being an official Office9.x-compatible
program, it is the
least that many (untrained) users would expect.
This goes for the user specific program info, like user's settings, as well
as for any of
the user's customised items, like formulas, experts, systest etc.
A program that monitors any installation correctly (oppose to the very
incomplete or not
being able to awake, fast-asleep cleansweep) is Remove-IT by Vertisoft
Systems, Inc.
(now Quarterdeck/Symantec Inc.). However, I am not sure that it will be
capable to
log-report these formulas conversions also. I have only recently switched
between these
recording programs, and the sleeping cleansweep was away in dreamland at
that
conversion-instance-time.
Would be nice tho, if Equis or Vertisoft will let this type of program also
be able to record
the formulas transitions/conversions while upgrading or offline, as the
Remove-IT program
punctualy records Registry changes as well (the Registry is the System.dat +
User.dat files
combined).
The reasons as to why your formulas possibly could not work in general, were
only in the
previous mail given as also "in general". As such will it will require much
further digging(and
deeper looking) into attendance (like step by step processing) and
experimenting, to find
out the reasons, or that it is due to other, of any of the other program
specific or formula
specific mistakes/reasons, eg as to why they will not work in MetaStock for
Windows.
Not all calculation-features that are commonly supported in other
TA-programs are also
included/supported in <for this the old hat> MetaStock
(like the enabling of currently-not-as-yet-known-figures(variables) to be
automaticaly being
inputted, for a variable's variant value, in custom formulas, eg on the spot
obtained figures
being automaticaly inputted without the user's manual input
function/requirements, that is
currently required only through input dialog windows or manual adjusting the
formulas)
neither are all functions/formulas, that are supported in other programs,
also supported
in MetaStock (see TAS-section below).
The reason why the MSforDOS-version is faster, is that it has a direct disk
access and
by-passes the very advanced Windows environment features (maintained by the
many
(virtual) memory controls), an environment for well developed programs to
function at
their most best.
However and, many other programs (eg Excel+Word), are capable to be as much
speedy in Windows as they were in old DOS, therefore it is obvious that the
under
developed MetaStock(+its subs) program's architecture is not well balanced
out to
work within the (for advancee's only) Windows-environment and that it
strongly needs
MetaStock manufacturer's professional program attendance(the developers
attendance)
and requires a good program revision/overhaul (also, like above, going
through step
by step processing to find the slow-down causes and to then make appropiate
program
changes/arrangements), and therefore this is also "out of control" for you
or me, the user.
The OLE write ups (a user's manual is missing) and its functioning (a clear
seperate user
-interface is missing also), sure do not deserve a "user-friendly" award,
let alone a "Best
user friendly" or that it will win in a beauty contest.
The advantages from a well worked-out OLE program, are/can be inmense
(virtualy any formula/calculation done in OLE-compatible Excel is visable in
MetaStock's
very nice interface), but much and proper back-up support (manual+online
Help) is also
not to be found, only for those who find the immense time to practise and
unless you also
know your ways around/are aquinted.
Workarounds can only "easy" be achieved by using the ScriptIt or AutoIt
programs having
the jobs doen automaticaly.
It works fine for me here tho, after months of diggin and experimenting, but
also this program
part too, like the above mentioned MetaStock & Speed-problems, is way
overdue for a
proper revision/overhaul.
(Make sure you do not mention OLE to the Mount, eg not even at families'
birthday party's,
while watching bullfights on TV(switch off the sound), or after sharing a
few beers do not
pretend that you are fluent in Spanish (only we all know you are......), as
we all await his next
views with urging desire!! and don't want him to punish ignore you from you
(Spanish)
misleading him).
Sure hope you will get ol' TAS/your system transfered over to MS (we on the
List are all
dying to hear from you on your system (+ that the system works also on MS
for you)
otherwise, and this is unfortunatly also very frustating, having such a good
TA-program like
MetaStock at hand, you could try the TAS for Windows-version.
(Some valueble formulas or TAS-functions, that are programable in TAS but
not supported
in MetaStock are printed below).
The latest signals here are:
OLD
LATEST
before 990507 -10yr/yield Euro ? Rate -Negative unchanged, -Negative
990610-10yr/yield Japan Yen Rate -Positive 990617 -Negative
990611-10yr/yield US $ Rate -Positive
990616 -Negative
990517-AEX -Negative
990603 -Positive
before 990507 -AEX-Volume-Negative 990615 -Positive
990517-DAX 35 -Negative
990614 -Positive
990514-DJ EURO STOXX 50 -Negative 990609 -Positive
990524-Dow Indu -Negative
990617 -Positive
990521-Dow Transp -Negative
unchanged, -Negative
way before 990507 -Dow Utils -Positive
unchanged, -Positive
990518-HangSeng -Negative
990609 -Positive
990518-Nikkei 225 -Negative
990609 -Positive
990524-SP500 -Negative
990616 -Positive
Regards,
Ton Maas
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>From an older mail:
Technical Analysis Scanner by FlexSoft
http://www.flexsoft.com/
Program's scan and indicator building(writing/coding) is very simular to
MS's indicators + scans. Program is also heavy loaded with explorable
scans+indicators, and even has a Trend Line-function/indicator(TrendLin)
that can be scanned for peaks+throughs.
Remarks are commented out by 2 (forward) slashes.
23.1.55 TrendLine Create a Trendline
Usage: TRENDLINE( a,s,e )
Returns: Array
Description :
Generate a line going through the points in array a from the
day
index s to the day index e.
Example:
Array X = TrendLine(C,-10,-2);
//
// creates a "line" that begins at and passes through
the CLOSE
// 10 days in the past and ends at the point two days
in the past.
//
// or if you wanted to create a trendline that rested
on the two latest
// major price peaks , you could use the ZIG function
as follows:
//
Array TL = Const(0); // for the trendline
Array Z = ZIG(C,5,'%'); // 5% moves only
recentPeak = Peak(Z,1); // Get recent peak
penulPeak = Peak(Z,2); // Get penultimate peak
IF recentPeak < 0 AND penulPeak < 0 THEN // we have two peaks
TL = TrendLine(C,penulPeak,recentPeak);
23.1.56 TrendPar Parallel Trendline
Usage: TRENDPAR( a,t,s )
Returns: Array
Description :
TrendLine's sister function TrendPar will draw a parallel
line
to trendline t, running through day s in array a.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Tann
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: zaterdag 19 juni 1999 5:18
Subject: RE: Faster MS Win 6.5 Explorations Using Cache???
Ton
I think my MS for Windows problems is their automatic conversion program
(which did a terrible job on my stuff) and then the 'cleaning up' I did to
get it to run. I just couldn't believe that MS for DOS runs 20 to 30 times
faster than MS for Win, in a DOS window under Win95. I've started writing
up all of the formulae and hope to reenter them from scratch in a few days
to see what happens. If I get that to run, then I'll add in the variables
that I currently need TAS to calculate and maybe will have a system on MS
that I can use.
As an alternative, I have everything coded in Excel and just need to code
the data access modules (if I can find that file library thing I bought) to
eliminate the OLE interface that doesn't work worth a darn. OLE uses the
symbol as well as the chart name, and I change the symbol every 3 months,
thereby requiring a new connection. The current, convoluted approach is
something I don't even want to consider teaching to my dad. :)
Regards,
Guy
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