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<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Hi 
Animal</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I'm 
not the one to defend MetaStock, as I have complaints myself.&nbsp; In this case 
I would have to suspect Signal insofar as I've used the Downloader for years 
with CompuServe as my futures data provider without a problem.&nbsp; Every time 
I've tried other futures data providers, the quality and reliability leave a lot 
to be desired.&nbsp; I'm still playing with evaluating other services hoping to 
reduce my monthly costs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
last one I reviewed kept sending erroneous data to me.&nbsp; Sometimes it would 
take 4 or 5 tries to get 'most' of my data.&nbsp; DL used to give me error 
messages about bad transmissions, missing checksums, etc.&nbsp; The same night, 
I would get my CompuServe data without a problem.&nbsp; Something unusual 
happened a few weeks ago.&nbsp; Had a problem getting my data from CS one 
day.&nbsp; First time that's happened in years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> animal<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:54 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> Linda Swope<BR><B>Cc:</B> MetaStock User 
    Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Signal<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not day trading right now.&nbsp; When I do I use 
    Signal and don't have any problems.&nbsp; I also live in their 
    backyard.&nbsp; I mainly day trade the futures.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>As to Signal/MS, my gripe was that 
    Signal (EOD) did not alway list the correct opening price on a 
    security.&nbsp; This meant there could be a 0 or an opening price from 
    n-days ago.&nbsp; This meant you could get an opening price well out of the 
    daily range until you got a valid opening price.&nbsp; This was causing the 
    system tester to barf.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Signal said what you see is what you 
    get.&nbsp; It is up to MS to handle the data presented.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Equis said it was a problem with the data being presented, 
    they were just reading what was there.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Signals solution was to clear the Signal db each night and 
    unplug the unit so it would start fresh each day.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Equis solution was to not use opening prices in the 
    security prices.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I offered to write an enhancement for MS to fix the 
    opening prices but got no response.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Writing the program for myself but it involves exporting 
    the data to test files.&nbsp; I refuse to pay for MS interface hooks to fix 
    a problem with their program.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Maybe a copy will show up someday...........</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>P.S. Nice web site - made me want to grab my skis and the 
    dog and hit the hill.&nbsp; Always have a great time in 
Jackson.</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Linda Swope &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx";>lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>animal@xxxxxxxxx &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:animal@xxxxxxxxx";>animal@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Thursday, January 28, 1999 9:29 AM<BR><B>Subject: 
        </B>Signal<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4>Hi Animal,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4></FONT><FONT size=4>I lurk the Metastock 
        list.&nbsp; I've been considering upgrading to MS Pro, but then I'm 
        stuck with Signal.&nbsp; I get conflicting reports as to their 
        reliability.&nbsp; I use Level II a lot and am concerned about possible 
        lag time in the quotes.&nbsp; I'd appreciate any comments on their 
        service!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Thanks for your help and time!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Linda</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4>Swope's Mountain Photography<BR><A 
        href="http://www.swopephoto.com";>http://www.swopephoto.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: RE: API or DDL compatible with metastock files
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<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Laurent</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I 
bought the MetaStock library package but haven't used it yet.&nbsp; Cost about 
$100 I think.&nbsp; Check out their web site (Equis).&nbsp; I really bought it 
to access MS data without having to use MS.&nbsp; I haven't been able to get my 
system running in MS since they went to Windows, so I'm still using MS for DOS 
and TAS to do my calculations.&nbsp; I'm going to move everything over to Visual 
Basic for Applications of just Visual Basic.&nbsp; I'm planning on giving MS 
6.52 one last try to see if I can get it to work there and output an ASCII file 
for input to Excel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Laurent GITTLER<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 28, 1999 
    10:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> API or DDL 
    compatible with metastock files<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Does anybody knows a software kit which enables to write 
    my own C++ software using the METASTOCK FILES.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I would like to develop additional programs using 
    metastock file format.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I have found in prior messages that equis 
    has a Metastock File Library which could enable this.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Has anybody used it, it is simple and fast 
    (I would like to develop new scans and quick indicators with 
    it).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I find Metastock becomes very slow in system 
    testers when it deals with custom made indicators like for example %B for 
    Bollinger, or Bollinger Band width, and everything which is not derivated 
    basically for built in indicators. </FONT><FONT size=2>It is really getting 
    very very slow when I try to apply not binary composites but fuzzy logic 
    composite indicators.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Laurent Gittler</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Laurent</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I 
bought the MetaStock library package but haven't used it yet.&nbsp; Cost about 
$100 I think.&nbsp; Check out their web site (Equis).&nbsp; I really bought it 
to access MS data without having to use MS.&nbsp; I haven't been able to get my 
system running in MS since they went to Windows, so I'm still using MS for DOS 
and TAS to do my calculations.&nbsp; I'm going to move everything over to Visual 
Basic for Applications of just Visual Basic.&nbsp; I'm planning on giving MS 
6.52 one last try to see if I can get it to work there and output an ASCII file 
for input to Excel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=10422422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Laurent GITTLER<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 28, 1999 
    10:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> API or DDL 
    compatible with metastock files<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Does anybody knows a software kit which enables to write 
    my own C++ software using the METASTOCK FILES.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I would like to develop additional programs using 
    metastock file format.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I have found in prior messages that equis 
    has a Metastock File Library which could enable this.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Has anybody used it, it is simple and fast 
    (I would like to develop new scans and quick indicators with 
    it).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I find Metastock becomes very slow in system 
    testers when it deals with custom made indicators like for example %B for 
    Bollinger, or Bollinger Band width, and everything which is not derivated 
    basically for built in indicators. </FONT><FONT size=2>It is really getting 
    very very slow when I try to apply not binary composites but fuzzy logic 
    composite indicators.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Laurent Gittler</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: RE: Signal
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<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Hi 
Animal</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I'm 
not the one to defend MetaStock, as I have complaints myself.&nbsp; In this case 
I would have to suspect Signal insofar as I've used the Downloader for years 
with CompuServe as my futures data provider without a problem.&nbsp; Every time 
I've tried other futures data providers, the quality and reliability leave a lot 
to be desired.&nbsp; I'm still playing with evaluating other services hoping to 
reduce my monthly costs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
last one I reviewed kept sending erroneous data to me.&nbsp; Sometimes it would 
take 4 or 5 tries to get 'most' of my data.&nbsp; DL used to give me error 
messages about bad transmissions, missing checksums, etc.&nbsp; The same night, 
I would get my CompuServe data without a problem.&nbsp; Something unusual 
happened a few weeks ago.&nbsp; Had a problem getting my data from CS one 
day.&nbsp; First time that's happened in years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=700441422-28011999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> animal<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:54 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> Linda Swope<BR><B>Cc:</B> MetaStock User 
    Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Signal<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not day trading right now.&nbsp; When I do I use 
    Signal and don't have any problems.&nbsp; I also live in their 
    backyard.&nbsp; I mainly day trade the futures.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>As to Signal/MS, my gripe was that 
    Signal (EOD) did not alway list the correct opening price on a 
    security.&nbsp; This meant there could be a 0 or an opening price from 
    n-days ago.&nbsp; This meant you could get an opening price well out of the 
    daily range until you got a valid opening price.&nbsp; This was causing the 
    system tester to barf.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Signal said what you see is what you 
    get.&nbsp; It is up to MS to handle the data presented.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Equis said it was a problem with the data being presented, 
    they were just reading what was there.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Signals solution was to clear the Signal db each night and 
    unplug the unit so it would start fresh each day.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Equis solution was to not use opening prices in the 
    security prices.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I offered to write an enhancement for MS to fix the 
    opening prices but got no response.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Writing the program for myself but it involves exporting 
    the data to test files.&nbsp; I refuse to pay for MS interface hooks to fix 
    a problem with their program.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Maybe a copy will show up someday...........</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>P.S. Nice web site - made me want to grab my skis and the 
    dog and hit the hill.&nbsp; Always have a great time in 
Jackson.</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Linda Swope &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx";>lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>animal@xxxxxxxxx &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:animal@xxxxxxxxx";>animal@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Thursday, January 28, 1999 9:29 AM<BR><B>Subject: 
        </B>Signal<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4>Hi Animal,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4></FONT><FONT size=4>I lurk the Metastock 
        list.&nbsp; I've been considering upgrading to MS Pro, but then I'm 
        stuck with Signal.&nbsp; I get conflicting reports as to their 
        reliability.&nbsp; I use Level II a lot and am concerned about possible 
        lag time in the quotes.&nbsp; I'd appreciate any comments on their 
        service!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Thanks for your help and time!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Linda</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=4>Swope's Mountain Photography<BR><A 
        href="http://www.swopephoto.com";>http://www.swopephoto.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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