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Re: [amibroker] Re: Help Manual



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Hello,

FYI:
Marcin is only responding to e-mails sent to support at amibroker.com.
He has no other duties.

All development, documentation, web design, all graphics, videos, maintenance and every other bit
on amibroker.com is my own work.

And yes it is my choice and I am happy with it and won't change my methods of work.
I was always doing everything on my own and did not ask for any help and
I am perfectly fine with that.

It may sound blunt, but I am not looking for any advice how should I conduct my business.

Regarding manual for the beginners, I already said, Howard IS already writing beginner's book (I have seen parts of it) and 
all you need to do is to buy Howard's book when it becomes available. He is good in writing for beginners. 

AB's own help is the technical reference, it is not and won't ever be "hand-holding" elementary book.

As for documenting "Prettify" function: sorry but this is as self-explanatory as "File -> Save" command.
It was mentioned in the READ ME since beta and is also listed in the User's Guide in What's new section.
The guide is not for 5-years-old. It assumes that readers know what "save", "open", "copy" and other 
verbs mean. Again: the help is technical reference and makes assumptions about minimum skill level of
the user. AmiBroker generally speaking is for computer literate people (aka "power users").

You may hate it, but it is my way of doing things. You are free to choose something else.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Help Manual


> Brian is right that the Help manual is incomplete and inadequate.
> 
> I don't buy the argument that "we shouldn't expect it to be complete
> because AmiBroker is cheap".
> 
> I know it's just TJ and Marcin, but that's TJ's choice. I've stated
> before, and I'll state again, I would happily pay $500 for AmiBroker
> IF it had great on-line help manuals. IF it had something along the
> lines of a decent beginners, intermediate and advanced users guide.
> And I'm sure new incremental users would come on board as AmiBroker
> becomes more 'accessbile' to the masses.
> 
> I took the plunge with AmiBroker, and there is absolutely no doubting
> it's a fine product.
> 
> The users of AmiBroker deserve to get the same support as they would
> if they chose to purchase one of the C# based alternatives - namely
> Ninja, RightEdge or OpenQuant etc. IF they have to pay more for that
> support, then so be it... TJ can hire someone to work solely on new
> user guides for the next 6 months. Shouldn't cost too much.
> 
> Let's pretend that Howard produces a 'beginners' book for AmiBroker,
> then another one for more advanced users, say focusing on the custom
> backtester... suddenly we've got three books for AmiBroker coming in
> at $50 each... that's $150.
> 
> Personally I'd be happy with either solution. A Howard provided
> alternative that costs $150, or an in-house AmiBRoker one that adds
> $150 to AB price.
> 
> But let's at least have one of the two alternatives.
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Jeez Brian, even TJ admits that everything is not perfect, but there
> are 
>> only 24 hours in a day and how much harder do you think he can work?
> He is 
>> human like the rest of us, if you spot an error or ommision, just
> report it 
>> so he can fix it.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM
>> Subject: [amibroker] Help Manual
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > There are far too many Help Manual questions posted in this forum.
>> >
>> > This takes up our valueable time answering questions that should have
>> > been answered by AmiBroker.
>> >
>> > In fact they waste far more time than OT posts.
>> >
>> > Our precious time would be far better spent answering more interesting
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > Some of the features in AB aren't explained in the manual, some things
>> > are out of date and sometimes the explanations are a bit cryptic.
>> >
>> > Example:
>> >
>> > Prettify was added to the Formula Editor in beta version 5.04
>> > - included in devlog under version 5.05 Feb08
>> > - official release v5.10 in June08 which includes manual 5.10
>> >
>> > Ami website PDF manual is still version 5.00
>> >
>> > - Search PDF for prettify == nothing
>> > - Search AB manual version 5.1 for prettify == nothing
>> > - Use AB site search engine == nothing
>> > - Google amibroker.com == 3 hits from devlog
>> > - devlog records release but has no info about it and no
> explanation in
>> > the read me
>> > - searched KB == nothing
>> > - searched UKB == nothing
>> >
>> > The screenshot of the FE edit dropdown menu, in the Help Manual is out
>> > of date (at least it looks different to my version 5.10)
>> >
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/w_afledit.html
>> >
>> > The Devlog just says that the Prettify function was added ...
> looked in
>> > the AFL function list and couldn't find anything... is it a
> function or
>> > a function()?
>> >
>> > New features should be explained in the official help manual that
> comes
>> > out immediately after the beta inclusion.
>> > We should not have to search elsewhere but even if we do we, in this
>> > case, we still find nothing.
>> >
>> > It shouldn't be up to volunteers to explain help manual items in this
>> > forum, or the UKB, or anywhere else.
>> >
>> > It saves AB some effort if they don't have to keep the manual up to
>> > date but the effort is transferred to the volunteers, who have to
>> > answer it scores of times, instead of AB answering it once.
>> >
>> > If we all took the rationalist approach, that some people are
>> > advocating e.g. "users should have skills or lower their sights or pay
>> > Graham", and charged AB for the time we spend providing AB support
> then
>> > the program would cost thousands of dollars and wouldn't look so
> cheap,
>> > up against other software, afterall
>> >
>> > brian_z
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>> >
>> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
>> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>> >
>> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
>> >
>> > For other support material please check also:
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
> 
> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to 
> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> 
> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> 
> For other support material please check also:
> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

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