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It wouldn't be out of the question to have the Manual a separate piece of
software that is self supporting. This would also help the sales of
AmiBroker and allow TJ to concentrate on development.
lou howard
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:57 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Help Manual
> Brian is right that the Help manual is incomplete and inadequate.
>
> I don't buy the argument that "we shouldn't expect it to be complete
> because AmiBroker is cheap".
>
> I know it's just TJ and Marcin, but that's TJ's choice. I've stated
> before, and I'll state again, I would happily pay $500 for AmiBroker
> IF it had great on-line help manuals. IF it had something along the
> lines of a decent beginners, intermediate and advanced users guide.
> And I'm sure new incremental users would come on board as AmiBroker
> becomes more 'accessbile' to the masses.
>
> I took the plunge with AmiBroker, and there is absolutely no doubting
> it's a fine product.
>
> The users of AmiBroker deserve to get the same support as they would
> if they chose to purchase one of the C# based alternatives - namely
> Ninja, RightEdge or OpenQuant etc. IF they have to pay more for that
> support, then so be it... TJ can hire someone to work solely on new
> user guides for the next 6 months. Shouldn't cost too much.
>
> Let's pretend that Howard produces a 'beginners' book for AmiBroker,
> then another one for more advanced users, say focusing on the custom
> backtester... suddenly we've got three books for AmiBroker coming in
> at $50 each... that's $150.
>
> Personally I'd be happy with either solution. A Howard provided
> alternative that costs $150, or an in-house AmiBRoker one that adds
> $150 to AB price.
>
> But let's at least have one of the two alternatives.
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Jeez Brian, even TJ admits that everything is not perfect, but there
> are
>> only 24 hours in a day and how much harder do you think he can work?
> He is
>> human like the rest of us, if you spot an error or ommision, just
> report it
>> so he can fix it.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM
>> Subject: [amibroker] Help Manual
>>
>>
>> >
>> > There are far too many Help Manual questions posted in this forum.
>> >
>> > This takes up our valueable time answering questions that should have
>> > been answered by AmiBroker.
>> >
>> > In fact they waste far more time than OT posts.
>> >
>> > Our precious time would be far better spent answering more interesting
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > Some of the features in AB aren't explained in the manual, some things
>> > are out of date and sometimes the explanations are a bit cryptic.
>> >
>> > Example:
>> >
>> > Prettify was added to the Formula Editor in beta version 5.04
>> > - included in devlog under version 5.05 Feb08
>> > - official release v5.10 in June08 which includes manual 5.10
>> >
>> > Ami website PDF manual is still version 5.00
>> >
>> > - Search PDF for prettify == nothing
>> > - Search AB manual version 5.1 for prettify == nothing
>> > - Use AB site search engine == nothing
>> > - Google amibroker.com == 3 hits from devlog
>> > - devlog records release but has no info about it and no
> explanation in
>> > the read me
>> > - searched KB == nothing
>> > - searched UKB == nothing
>> >
>> > The screenshot of the FE edit dropdown menu, in the Help Manual is out
>> > of date (at least it looks different to my version 5.10)
>> >
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/w_afledit.html
>> >
>> > The Devlog just says that the Prettify function was added ...
> looked in
>> > the AFL function list and couldn't find anything... is it a
> function or
>> > a function()?
>> >
>> > New features should be explained in the official help manual that
> comes
>> > out immediately after the beta inclusion.
>> > We should not have to search elsewhere but even if we do we, in this
>> > case, we still find nothing.
>> >
>> > It shouldn't be up to volunteers to explain help manual items in this
>> > forum, or the UKB, or anywhere else.
>> >
>> > It saves AB some effort if they don't have to keep the manual up to
>> > date but the effort is transferred to the volunteers, who have to
>> > answer it scores of times, instead of AB answering it once.
>> >
>> > If we all took the rationalist approach, that some people are
>> > advocating e.g. "users should have skills or lower their sights or pay
>> > Graham", and charged AB for the time we spend providing AB support
> then
>> > the program would cost thousands of dollars and wouldn't look so
> cheap,
>> > up against other software, afterall
>> >
>> > brian_z
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>> >
>> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
>> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>> >
>> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
>> >
>> > For other support material please check also:
>> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>
> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>
> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
>
> For other support material please check also:
> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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