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If only people are willing to respect categories. Somehow, AmiQuote questions land here
despite the fact that in theory they should be sent to dedicated amiquote list http://www.egroups.com/messages/amiquote
"Human factor" is what counts.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "pmxgs" <pmxgs@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:53 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> I've already voted.
>
> My preference goes to forum style, due to the simple fact that we
> have the ability to organize Posts into categories, which is not
> possible here in yahoo.
> That for me, is the main disadvantage with yahoo groups.
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Yes, I fully support UKB in current (Wordpress) shape.
>>
>> The fact that only few post is connected with the fact
>> that posting in UKB is seen as more "formal" than unformal e-mail
>> communication. On the other hand this more formal appearance
>> has positive side - it increases quality of contributions.
>>
>> I would always prefer few quality UKB articles than lots of
> forum/list noise.
>> Elitetrader for example is forum-based. The amount of "noise" there
>> is enormous.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>>
>>
>> > Tomasz,
>> >
>> > I just read your post to the other thread answering my concerns
> about
>> > your support for the UKB.
>> >
>> > So please ignore the last sentence in the previous post below.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tomasz,
>> >>
>> >> It is fair enough to say that the UKB will stay as is. I can
> accept
>> >> that. The problem is that hardly anyone is posting to it. So
> (in
>> >> factual hindsight) the private conversations about what it had
> to have
>> >> for presentation came to the wrong tradeoff to make it widely
>> >> acceptable to many who were not part of that process. But that
> can be
>> >> a different poll if you want it.
>> >>
>> >> Since you say that this poll is just about Yahoo groups EMAIL
> vs PHP
>> >> WEB only access to the list, the details about a proposed PHP
> solution
>> >> are very important. How you personally feel about being able to
>> >> maintain it is if primary importance. If you would not be
> happy with
>> >> it, then it is pointless.
>> >>
>> >> So I am not sure if this poll is about a vote of confidence for
>> >> leaving things the way they are, or because you have an
> alternative
>> >> you would like to try. Your intentions are not clear to me. I
> am
>> >> very confused since this poll came just after you were
> discouraging my
>> >> efforts to recruit more participation in the current UKB.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Dennis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> There is no poll for that and there is no such option.
>> >>> UKB won't be moved to forum format. UserKB will stay in current
>> >>> format (i.e. Wordpress)
>> >>> in place where it is now http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
>> >>>
>> >>> Discussion about that topic has no point because I won't
> change my
>> >>> mind in that area.
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW: *** phpBB software does *NOT* have e-mail send/receive of
>> >>> posts. ***
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> >>> amibroker.com
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx>
>> >>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:30 PM
>> >>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I vote to move the UKB to a new forum provided it has email
> send and
>> >>>> receive.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I will reformat my posts and do some new ones.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> brian_z
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Progster,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I disagree, and not because of "unexperience" as you said.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You did not hear private discussions about UKB therefore you
> have
>> >>>> no idea
>> >>>>> about kind of layout capability expectations people have.
> They are
>> >>>> way over top
>> >>>>> any forum.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> >>>>> amibroker.com
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "progster01" <progster@>
>> >>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:01 PM
>> >>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Speaking of phpBB3 as "the forum":
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> <groups@>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> the forum is *very* limited when it comes to formatting the
>> >>>> article.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Wow, I have to disagree with that statement!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sorry to quibble with you on your own list, TJ, but I think
> the
>> >>>>>> opinion you've expressed above is misleading to the
>> >>>>>> uninformed/unexperienced (in phpBB3), and would be widely
>> >>>> rejected by
>> >>>>>> those who routinely use properly enabled phpBB3 Forums.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> PhpBB3 Forum, IMO, provides generous and easy-to-use
> formatting
>> >>>> with
>> >>>>>> control of text styles, in-line images, visual compression
> of
>> >>>> large
>> >>>>>> images into the page area, and far too many more specifics
> to list
>> >>>>>> individually.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> PhpBB3 is not a pixel-by-pixel publishing layout program (is
>> >>>>>> WordPress?), but that is irrelevant (IMO).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What is relevant is that with only a very tiny learning
> curve
>> >>>> phpBB3
>> >>>>>> will allow anyone willing to make the slightest effort to
> produce
>> >>>> very
>> >>>>>> nice messages, with text styling, with blocks and indents,
> with
>> >>>>>> images, with attached files, with segregated,
> selectable "code"
>> >>>> blocks.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If phpBB3 were to become the AB community forum platform,
> members
>> >>>>>> would be unfettered from the very serious
> expressive/presentation
>> >>>>>> limitations of the Yahoo email list format. The trade-off
> is
>> >>>> that the
>> >>>>>> whole ball of wax doesn't appear in your email inbox
>> >>>> automatically (if
>> >>>>>> that's what you are used to).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If this change is adopted, I predict UKB in WordPress will
> become
>> >>>> a
>> >>>>>> lame duck. Virtually no one will use it, because phpBB3,
> properly
>> >>>>>> configured, is _so much easier to use_, and perfectly
> adequate
>> >>>> for all
>> >>>>>> but the most demanding "magazine-like" presentations.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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