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[amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote



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I've already voted.

My preference goes to forum style, due to the simple fact that we 
have the ability to organize Posts into categories, which is not 
possible here in yahoo.
That for me, is the main disadvantage with yahoo groups.


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> Yes, I fully support UKB in current (Wordpress) shape.
> 
> The fact that only few post is connected with the fact
> that posting in UKB is seen as more "formal" than unformal e-mail
> communication. On the other hand this more formal appearance
> has positive side - it increases quality of contributions. 
> 
> I would always prefer few quality UKB articles than lots of 
forum/list noise.
> Elitetrader for example is forum-based. The amount of "noise" there
> is enormous.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> 
> 
> > Tomasz,
> > 
> > I just read your post to the other thread answering my concerns 
about  
> > your support for the UKB.
> > 
> > So please ignore the last sentence in the previous post below.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Dennis
> > 
> > On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> > 
> >> Tomasz,
> >>
> >> It is fair enough to say that the UKB will stay as is.  I can 
accept
> >> that.  The problem is that hardly anyone is posting to it.  So 
(in
> >> factual hindsight) the private conversations about what it had 
to have
> >> for presentation came to the wrong tradeoff to make it widely
> >> acceptable to many who were not part of that process.  But that 
can be
> >> a different poll if you want it.
> >>
> >> Since you say that this poll is just about Yahoo groups EMAIL 
vs PHP
> >> WEB only access to the list, the details about a proposed PHP 
solution
> >> are very important.  How you personally feel about being able to
> >> maintain it is if primary importance.  If you would not be 
happy with
> >> it, then it is pointless.
> >>
> >> So I am not sure if this poll is about a vote of confidence for
> >> leaving things the way they are, or because you have an 
alternative
> >> you would like to try.  Your intentions are not clear to me.  I 
am
> >> very confused since this poll came just after you were 
discouraging my
> >> efforts to recruit more participation in the current UKB.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> There is no poll for that and there is no such option.
> >>> UKB won't be moved to forum format. UserKB will stay in current
> >>> format (i.e. Wordpress)
> >>> in place where it is now http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> >>>
> >>> Discussion about that topic has no point because I won't 
change my
> >>> mind in that area.
> >>>
> >>> BTW: *** phpBB software does *NOT* have e-mail send/receive of
> >>> posts. ***
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>> amibroker.com
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx>
> >>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:30 PM
> >>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I vote to move the UKB to a new forum provided it has email 
send and
> >>>> receive.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will reformat my posts and do some new ones.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> brian_z
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Progster,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I disagree, and not because of "unexperience" as you said.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You did not hear private discussions about UKB therefore you 
have
> >>>> no idea
> >>>>> about kind of layout capability expectations people have. 
They are
> >>>> way over top
> >>>>> any forum.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "progster01" <progster@>
> >>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:01 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Forum or Mailing List - please vote
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Speaking of phpBB3 as "the forum":
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
<groups@>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the forum is *very* limited when it comes to formatting the
> >>>> article.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wow, I have to disagree with that statement!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry to quibble with you on your own list, TJ, but I think 
the
> >>>>>> opinion you've expressed above is misleading to the
> >>>>>> uninformed/unexperienced (in phpBB3), and would be widely
> >>>> rejected by
> >>>>>> those who routinely use properly enabled phpBB3 Forums.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PhpBB3 Forum, IMO, provides generous and easy-to-use 
formatting
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> control of text styles, in-line images, visual compression 
of
> >>>> large
> >>>>>> images into the page area, and far too many more specifics 
to list
> >>>>>> individually.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PhpBB3 is not a pixel-by-pixel publishing layout program (is
> >>>>>> WordPress?), but that is irrelevant (IMO).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is relevant is that with only a very tiny learning 
curve
> >>>> phpBB3
> >>>>>> will allow anyone willing to make the slightest effort to 
produce
> >>>> very
> >>>>>> nice messages, with text styling, with blocks and indents, 
with
> >>>>>> images, with attached files, with segregated, 
selectable "code"
> >>>> blocks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If phpBB3 were to become the AB community forum platform, 
members
> >>>>>> would be unfettered from the very serious 
expressive/presentation
> >>>>>> limitations of the Yahoo email list format.  The trade-off 
is
> >>>> that the
> >>>>>> whole ball of wax doesn't appear in your email inbox
> >>>> automatically (if
> >>>>>> that's what you are used to).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If this change is adopted, I predict UKB in WordPress will 
become
> >>>> a
> >>>>>> lame duck.  Virtually no one will use it, because phpBB3, 
properly
> >>>>>> configured, is _so much easier to use_, and perfectly 
adequate
> >>>> for all
> >>>>>> but the most demanding "magazine-like" presentations.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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