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And there you have it. . . The most important statement of this whole 
discussion: the FEEDBACK centre is the place where each and everyone 
of us can submit their "request". I find it very annoying that some 
people somehow think that their request should get more attention 
than others, and decide to post/discuss it in this group. Imagine 
what would happen if we all think like that. Also, having the 
pretention to think that you somehow can categorize and rank how 
people (should) use AB and prioritize enhancements . . . Ridiculous. 
If you want change, vote for it at the FBC or pay for it.

PS
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> I appreciate all suggestions and there is really no problem
> in adding new features provided that there is demand for them.
> I specifically asked for charting suggestions, as this is way
> more "subjective" thing than backtesting and other rule-based tools.
> Discretionary traders seem to be very sensitive to all those
> little details and aesthetics. These are are sometimes easy to 
develop
> sometimes not, but unless you hear the feedback it is not possible
> to know what every single person uses. 
> So again, feedback is appreciated. If possible and not too time 
consuming
> for you, I greatly appreciate filling the issue via feedback 
center. If not,
> I can keep track on my internal list.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:30 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' 
trading...
> 
> 
> > How97,
> > 
> > I agree. You've stated nothing that I haven't already.
> > 
> > I do use other software... MarketDelta & have been looking at 
Ninja
> > with a market profile plug in as an alternative.
> > 
> > Like others, I'm not desperately keen on using multiple software
> > systems. I'd rather try and get it under one roof. And the truth 
is it
> > really wouldn't be hard for TJ to add some of that functionality.
> > 
> > I'm adding my voice to a largely dominant rule based crowd... I 
hope
> > you're ok with free expression of wishes and ideas...??
> > 
> > I think others have also made it clear on this thread that they'd 
like
> > to see some more functionality on the charting side too.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "how97" <101.158294@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe it is clear that the large majority of the AB users 
want 
> >> to have the possibility for rule-based trading, backtesting, 
> >> automatic analysis, automatic trading etc. For that group 
Amibroker 
> >> is just excellent and it is constantly enhanced in these 
> >> possibilities. And that is what the large majority of its users 
> >> wants. And AB strongly supported by its users and driven by 
their 
> >> wishes.
> >> 
> >> The large majority of users is clearly not the discretionary 
> >> traders. These may need better or specialized charting. That may 
> >> well be. If this better charting software exists already as you 
are 
> >> saying, why are you not using it, why did you come here to AB? 
What 
> >> were you looking for? 
> >> 
> >> I think it is also a clear preference of Tomasz to develop AB 
into a 
> >> direction where most of its users wants to ahve it. And that is 
> >> good. A lot of the stuff in AB is much too complex if you are 
just 
> >> looking for other kinds of charting. So why bother? You need to 
use 
> >> a different software. 
> >> 
> >> By the way: In my opinion AB allows excellent charting.
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> how97
> >> 
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@> 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From my perspective, and this is really why I connected 
charting to
> >> > the ideas of 'rule based' vs 'discretionary' trading... if you 
are 
> >> a
> >> > discretionary trader, from a software perspective it is ALL 
about
> >> > visibility. If the software you are using doesn't or can't 
give you
> >> > the best visibility available then you are at a disadvanatge. 
You
> >> > can't make sensible discretionary trading decisions without 
being 
> >> able
> >> > to see how current market structure has evolved, what market 
> >> dynamics
> >> > are at play, how the auction process is evolving at different 
time
> >> > frames etc..etc.. You simply don't get that from bar & candle 
> >> charts.
> >> > 
> >> > Hence my obsession with Market Profile & Equivolume and 
generally 
> >> more
> >> > accessability and adaptability to AmiBroker's charting 
facilicites.
> >> > 
> >> > Currently it's a fabulous piece of software, particualrly 
for 'rule
> >> > based' traders.... But probably a less fabulous piece of 
software 
> >> for
> >> > discretionary day traders for example. But of course, I 
appreciate,
> >> > it's hard to be all things to all men...
> >> > 
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ken Close <ken45140@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > One simple suggestion for charting improvement:
> >> > > 
> >> > > Put in the ability to insert a "Tab" character in a Title 
> >> statement
> >> > in order
> >> > > to make it easier to produce multi-line tables 
with "columns" 
> >> left
> >> > justified
> >> > > no matter how many decimal places in previous values in the 
same 
> >> row.  I
> >> > > have done it via complex IIF statements but how nice it 
would be 
> >> to
> >> > insert
> >> > > the code for a tab character to create columns.  No, I do 
not 
> >> want to do
> >> > > this with the gfx commands (too complex for this 
application).
> >> > > 
> >> > > Ken 
> >> > > 
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > On Behalf
> >> > > Of Tomasz Janeczko
> >> > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:33 PM
> >> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' 
> >> trading...
> >> > > 
> >> > > Hello,
> >> > > 
> >> > > Not wanting to hijack this thread but whenever I ask about 
some 
> >> itemized
> >> > > list of what is exactly "weak" in AB charting, I don't 
receive 
> >> any
> >> > > meaningful reply. I would really want to know some objective 
list
> >> > instead of
> >> > > statements I heard on ET that "charts are ugly" which for me
> >> > unfortunatelly
> >> > > means nothing, considering the hunderds of ways charts can 
be 
> >> customized
> >> > > according to user taste in AB.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> >
>



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