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[amibroker] Re: 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' trading...



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If you'd read the thread from the beginning you'd realise this was
never meant as a discussion about 'requesting features'. The title of
the thread is obvious. The reason it went 'off on a tangent' is
excatly because TJ intervened and REQUESTED feedback on charting
features. Please read the FULL thread before pulling the trigger.

Now, back to the original topic...

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "vlanschot" <vlanschot@xxx> wrote:
>
> And there you have it. . . The most important statement of this whole 
> discussion: the FEEDBACK centre is the place where each and everyone 
> of us can submit their "request". I find it very annoying that some 
> people somehow think that their request should get more attention 
> than others, and decide to post/discuss it in this group. Imagine 
> what would happen if we all think like that. Also, having the 
> pretention to think that you somehow can categorize and rank how 
> people (should) use AB and prioritize enhancements . . . Ridiculous. 
> If you want change, vote for it at the FBC or pay for it.
> 
> PS
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I appreciate all suggestions and there is really no problem
> > in adding new features provided that there is demand for them.
> > I specifically asked for charting suggestions, as this is way
> > more "subjective" thing than backtesting and other rule-based tools.
> > Discretionary traders seem to be very sensitive to all those
> > little details and aesthetics. These are are sometimes easy to 
> develop
> > sometimes not, but unless you hear the feedback it is not possible
> > to know what every single person uses. 
> > So again, feedback is appreciated. If possible and not too time 
> consuming
> > for you, I greatly appreciate filling the issue via feedback 
> center. If not,
> > I can keep track on my internal list.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:30 PM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' 
> trading...
> > 
> > 
> > > How97,
> > > 
> > > I agree. You've stated nothing that I haven't already.
> > > 
> > > I do use other software... MarketDelta & have been looking at 
> Ninja
> > > with a market profile plug in as an alternative.
> > > 
> > > Like others, I'm not desperately keen on using multiple software
> > > systems. I'd rather try and get it under one roof. And the truth 
> is it
> > > really wouldn't be hard for TJ to add some of that functionality.
> > > 
> > > I'm adding my voice to a largely dominant rule based crowd... I 
> hope
> > > you're ok with free expression of wishes and ideas...??
> > > 
> > > I think others have also made it clear on this thread that they'd 
> like
> > > to see some more functionality on the charting side too.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "how97" <101.158294@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe it is clear that the large majority of the AB users 
> want 
> > >> to have the possibility for rule-based trading, backtesting, 
> > >> automatic analysis, automatic trading etc. For that group 
> Amibroker 
> > >> is just excellent and it is constantly enhanced in these 
> > >> possibilities. And that is what the large majority of its users 
> > >> wants. And AB strongly supported by its users and driven by 
> their 
> > >> wishes.
> > >> 
> > >> The large majority of users is clearly not the discretionary 
> > >> traders. These may need better or specialized charting. That may 
> > >> well be. If this better charting software exists already as you 
> are 
> > >> saying, why are you not using it, why did you come here to AB? 
> What 
> > >> were you looking for? 
> > >> 
> > >> I think it is also a clear preference of Tomasz to develop AB 
> into a 
> > >> direction where most of its users wants to ahve it. And that is 
> > >> good. A lot of the stuff in AB is much too complex if you are 
> just 
> > >> looking for other kinds of charting. So why bother? You need to 
> use 
> > >> a different software. 
> > >> 
> > >> By the way: In my opinion AB allows excellent charting.
> > >> 
> > >> Regards
> > >> how97
> > >> 
> > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > From my perspective, and this is really why I connected 
> charting to
> > >> > the ideas of 'rule based' vs 'discretionary' trading... if you 
> are 
> > >> a
> > >> > discretionary trader, from a software perspective it is ALL 
> about
> > >> > visibility. If the software you are using doesn't or can't 
> give you
> > >> > the best visibility available then you are at a disadvanatge. 
> You
> > >> > can't make sensible discretionary trading decisions without 
> being 
> > >> able
> > >> > to see how current market structure has evolved, what market 
> > >> dynamics
> > >> > are at play, how the auction process is evolving at different 
> time
> > >> > frames etc..etc.. You simply don't get that from bar & candle 
> > >> charts.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Hence my obsession with Market Profile & Equivolume and 
> generally 
> > >> more
> > >> > accessability and adaptability to AmiBroker's charting 
> facilicites.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Currently it's a fabulous piece of software, particualrly 
> for 'rule
> > >> > based' traders.... But probably a less fabulous piece of 
> software 
> > >> for
> > >> > discretionary day traders for example. But of course, I 
> appreciate,
> > >> > it's hard to be all things to all men...
> > >> > 
> > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ken Close <ken45140@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > One simple suggestion for charting improvement:
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Put in the ability to insert a "Tab" character in a Title 
> > >> statement
> > >> > in order
> > >> > > to make it easier to produce multi-line tables 
> with "columns" 
> > >> left
> > >> > justified
> > >> > > no matter how many decimal places in previous values in the 
> same 
> > >> row.  I
> > >> > > have done it via complex IIF statements but how nice it 
> would be 
> > >> to
> > >> > insert
> > >> > > the code for a tab character to create columns.  No, I do 
> not 
> > >> want to do
> > >> > > this with the gfx commands (too complex for this 
> application).
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Ken 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >> > On Behalf
> > >> > > Of Tomasz Janeczko
> > >> > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:33 PM
> > >> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary' 
> > >> trading...
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Hello,
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Not wanting to hijack this thread but whenever I ask about 
> some 
> > >> itemized
> > >> > > list of what is exactly "weak" in AB charting, I don't 
> receive 
> > >> any
> > >> > > meaningful reply. I would really want to know some objective 
> list
> > >> > instead of
> > >> > > statements I heard on ET that "charts are ugly" which for me
> > >> > unfortunatelly
> > >> > > means nothing, considering the hunderds of ways charts can 
> be 
> > >> customized
> > >> > > according to user taste in AB.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
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> > > 
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>



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