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Joseph,
I have run into this problem also. The way I solve it is I only right
click on the study which will select the study without changing it and
then select the properties from the contextual menu.
You just have to be very aware that clicking on any place on your
chart can change a study if you are not careful. This can be a
problem for on chart Gfx buttons.
I would welcome the first click is only a study selection and you can
only drag an already selected study as the standard UI convention for
AB, but others would have to weigh in on a wholesale change like that.
BR,
Dennis
On Jun 20, 2008, at 4:33 AM, J. Biran wrote:
>
> The only problem is that you can only select the properties
> of LAST (or already selected) study.
> In order to select any other study you have to click on it
> which unfortunately also moves the study.
> One possibility would be to be able to select studies with
> first click (just select item), then you can drag it or
> change properties.
>
> Joseph Biran
> ____________________________________________
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tomasz
> Janeczko
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:31 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...
>
> Hello,o
>
> Regarding #726 -
> It respects the selection but clicking means CHANGING
> selection.
> If you want to access properties of selected study without
> changing selection
> just use Edit->Properties menu or define keyboard shortcut
> for that for fast access.
>
> If all studies are put in the SAME place, how AmiBroker
> can tell which one you mean when you are clicking on given
> X,Y point?
> Do you know how it works in any software?
> It detects X,Y co-ordinates that you just clicked, then it
> detects
> which studies exist under given point. If more than one
> exists under the
> very same point, it picks first one.
> The only alternative that could be implemented is to pick
> the last one
> instead of first.
>
> As for the rest - that would need to be checked.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:12 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...
>
>
>> Friends,
>>
>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact
> I use only
>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style.
> I trade only
>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading
> systems just
>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the
> traditional
>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
>>
>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions
> as a very
>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other
> charting
>> programs.
>>
>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there
> (and I think
>> potentially better), the interface (either design or
> implementation
>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use
> this product
>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading.
> In fact, I
>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to
> the same
>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even
> though AB would
>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has
> been going
>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
>>
>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try
> AB in the
>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will
> say to me when
>> they figure out that these basic features don't work
> properly. I have
>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite
> a while --
>> hoping these things would be fixed first.
>>
>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the
> same bugs,
>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that
> Tomasz knows that
>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some
> higher
>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
>>
>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are
> others on the
>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the
> ones that
>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple
> operation
>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates
> frustration and
>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or
> makes the line
>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss
> the trigger
>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are
> costing you
>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please
> add them to
>> the conversation.
>>
>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not
> respected. Often
>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot
> points.
>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a
> common pivot
>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become
> more
>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time.
> It is easy
>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where
> it is unique,
>> and the handles will appear along the line. However,
> unlike any other
>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging
> on the
>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other
> study
>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB
> will grab
>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it
> will un-select
>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it
> instead.
>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to
> grab the
>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away
> from its
>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very
> frustrating and
>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading
> action.
>>
>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal.
> The horizontal
>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet
> mode on.
>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you
> click on
>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar
> on the left
>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and
> causes errors
>> in placement of the price level after the fact.
> Completely
>> unacceptable behavior for trading.
>>
>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Let's say
> you have the
>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between
> two peaks.
>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the
> right hand
>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have
> advanced to a
>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the
> new peak (this
>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that
> handle that is
>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on
> the peak
>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the
> trend line to
>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you
> end up
>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the
> wrong place
>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
>>
>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a
> study, there
>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have
> dragged the
>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the
> study gets moved
>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow.
> This wastes
>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out
> which wrong bar
>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want
> it. This
>> is an annoyance.
>>
>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw
> trend lines
>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5
> minute view,
>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And
> heaven help
>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap
> to these
>> wrong bars.
>>
>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these
> issues affect
>> you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
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