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RE: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...



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The only problem is that you can only select the properties
of LAST (or already selected) study.
In order to select any other study you have to click on it
which unfortunately also moves the study.
One possibility would be to be able to select studies with
first click (just select item), then you can drag it or
change properties.

Joseph Biran
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-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tomasz
Janeczko
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:31 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...

Hello,o

Regarding #726 -
It respects the selection but clicking means CHANGING
selection.
If you want to access properties of selected study without
changing selection
just use Edit->Properties menu or define keyboard shortcut
for that for fast access.

If all studies are put in the SAME place, how AmiBroker 
can tell which one you mean when you are clicking on given
X,Y point?
Do you know how it works in any software?
It detects X,Y co-ordinates that you just clicked, then it
detects
which studies exist under given point. If more than one
exists under the
very same point, it picks first one.
The only alternative that could be implemented is to pick
the last one
instead of first.

As for the rest - that would need to be checked.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:12 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...


> Friends,
> 
> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things.  In fact
I use only  
> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style.
I trade only  
> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading
systems just  
> in AFL in indicator mode.  This is actually more like the
traditional  
> chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
> 
> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions
as a very  
> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other
charting  
> programs.
> 
> However, even though the fundamental operations are there
(and I think  
> potentially better), the interface (either design or
implementation  
> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use
this product  
> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading.
In fact, I  
> need a second chart from my broker's application open to
the same  
> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even
though AB would  
> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs.  This has
been going  
> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
> 
> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try
AB in the  
> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will
say to me when  
> they figure out that these basic features don't work
properly.  I have  
> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite
a while -- 
> hoping these things would be fixed first.
> 
> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the
same bugs,  
> but if you are, please join the conversation so that
Tomasz knows that  
> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some
higher  
> priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
> 
> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are
others on the  
> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the
ones that  
> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple
operation  
> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates
frustration and  
> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or
makes the line  
> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss
the trigger  
> point for a trade.  If I have missed any that you feel are
costing you  
> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please
add them to  
> the conversation.
> 
> #726.  Handles from a selected study line are not
respected.  Often  
> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot
points.   
> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a
common pivot  
> point.  However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become
more  
> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time.
It is easy  
> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where
it is unique,  
> and the handles will appear along the line.  However,
unlike any other  
> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging
on the  
> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other
study  
> crosses very close to that handle.  The problem is that AB
will grab  
> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it
will un-select  
> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it
instead.   
> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to
grab the  
> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away
from its  
> current location and reposition all its handles.  Very
frustrating and  
> takes the time and concentration away from the trading
action.
> 
> #728.  Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal.
The horizontal  
> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet
mode on.   
> They just are placed at the cursor level.  However, if you
click on  
> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar
on the left  
> side of the screen.  Its operation is just bizarre and
causes errors  
> in placement of the price level after the fact.
Completely  
> unacceptable behavior for trading.
> 
> #890.  Study handles change when off screen.  Let's say
you have the  
> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between
two peaks.   
> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the
right hand  
> handle is visible on the chart.  Now say the prices have
advanced to a  
> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the
new peak (this  
> is a very common occurrence).  Most of the time, that
handle that is  
> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on
the peak  
> you selected.  Of course that changes the slope of the
trend line to  
> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you
end up  
> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the
wrong place  
> now.  Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
> 
> #990.  Drag shadow is on the wrong bar.  When dragging a
study, there  
> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have
dragged the  
> handles to.  However, when the mouse is released, the
study gets moved  
> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow.
This wastes  
> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out
which wrong bar  
> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want
it.  This  
> is an annoyance.
> 
> And here is one more that I just found today.  If I draw
trend lines  
> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5
minute view,  
> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars.  And
heaven help  
> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap
to these  
> wrong bars.
> 
> There you have my short list.  Please speak up if these
issues affect  
> you.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dennis
> 
> 
> 
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