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Dennis:
I completely agree with your overall assessment and
know that at least several users also completely or partially agree
but may or may not respond - so you are not alone. Much has been said
through the years on the Yahoo board/AB website/support mail about bugs,
"clunkiness", and desired/necessary features. Because of the type of
problems that you mentioned (I am also indicator mode oriented), I use the
EOD version of AB and then only at "half throttle" because my applications
and programming needs are not as extensive as that of a number of other AB
users. Like you, I use broker supplied and personal software for RT
streaming and charting studies (no "shoe" fits all). These issues,
however, are not restricted to AB as evidenced by a recent review on another
board where the user compared AB/Metastock/Tradestation/Blocks and ended up
(as I understand) with a Blocks package that includes charting/streaming
data/EOD data/backtesting/useful standard features - so things are
evolving.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:12
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Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare
I say bugs...
Friends,
AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many
things. In fact I use only
a fraction of its total capability
for my trading style. I trade only
single ticker (futures)
real time and write whole trading systems just
in AFL in indicator
mode. This is actually more like the traditional
chart trading
that is offered by many brokers.
I would expect that AB, which supports
all these functions as a very
basic operating mode would be at least
as good as other charting
programs.
However, even though the
fundamental operations are there (and I think
potentially better),
the interface (either design or implementation
bugs --I don't know
which) has made it hard for me to use this product
for drawing even
basic lines on the charts while trading. In fact, I
need a
second chart from my broker's application open to the same
ticker
just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB would
be
superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been going
on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
I have other
trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the
last week, and
I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me when
they figure
out that these basic features don't work properly. I have
actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while --
hoping these things would be fixed first.
I don't know how many
other traders are frustrated by the same bugs,
but if you are,
please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows that
this is
important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher
priority on
getting the study charting to work properly.
Here is a short list of my
frustrating bugs --there are others on the
suggestions and bug
lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that
cost profits by
either making it very slow to do a simple operation
that makes one
lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration and
emotion which
takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the line
drawn
correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the trigger
point
for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are costing you
profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them to
the conversation.
#726. Handles from a selected study line
are not respected. Often
several lines are anchored or pass
through the same pivot points.
Price levels, Trend lines,
Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common pivot
point. However, as
a trade progresses, new pivots become more
important and the lines
need to be adjusted in real time. It is easy
to select a study
just by clicking on it in a spot where it is unique,
and the handles
will appear along the line. However, unlike any other
charting
program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the
visible
handle will not usually work properly if any other study
crosses
very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will grab
the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will
un-select
the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it
instead.
After playing around for a few valuable seconds
trying to grab the
right line, I end up having to move the whole
line away from its
current location and reposition all its
handles. Very frustrating and
takes the time and concentration
away from the trading action.
#728. Horizontal price levels do
not stay horizontal. The horizontal
lines (price levels) do
not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on.
They just are
placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on
the line,
it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the left
side of
the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes errors
in
placement of the price level after the fact. Completely
unacceptable behavior for trading.
#890. Study handles change
when off screen. Lets say you have the
magnet on and are
zoomed out and draw a trend line between two peaks.
Next you
zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand
handle is
visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced to a
new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak
(this
is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that
handle that is
off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no
longer on the peak
you selected. Of course that changes the
slope of the trend line to
the wrong one, but you never know it when
trading and you end up
placing bad breakout trades because the line
is in the wrong place
now. Completely unacceptable behavior
for trading.
#990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When
dragging a study, there
is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar
you have dragged the
handles to. However, when the mouse is
released, the study gets moved
to a different bar than the one
indicated by the shadow. This wastes
valuable time with two or
three attempts to figure out which wrong bar
to put the shadow on to
get the study to go where you want it. This
is an
annoyance.
And here is one more that I just found today. If I
draw trend lines
on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch
to a 5 minute view,
the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute
bars. And heaven help
me if I select the line in that view,
because it will snap to these
wrong bars.
There you have my
short list. Please speak up if these issues affect
you.
Best
regards,
Dennis
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