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[amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?



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Hello Jerry

Sorry for this Jerry but at the bottom you will see why.

Call NOW Bob at 877-872-3303) or email at support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
so we can get a plug-in for AMI.

Amp is the introducing broker and TransAct is the Data 
provider/programmer/Clearing Firm and Harris is the Bank.  Amp also 
offers Zen Fire with Ninja and also OpenEcry.  But I ask myself since 
I have MY AMI why in the world would I want to set there for 5 min. 
while Ninja loads up on my Dell 670 workstation with 2-3.6 mhz Xeons, 
2mg mem.877-872-3303) or email us at sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If MY AMI was not here I would prob choose Ninja with their great 
training program.  Look at the Photo section here and see the 5 data 
feeds.

I asked Chi Wu at OpenEcry if they could feed MY AMI but did not get 
a positive reply.  Chi might not be the person to talk to as I do not 
know how he fits at OECry.  Amp showed some interest last week but I 
do not know where that has gone.  OEC has a DDE but I can not get it 
to work with MY AMI or with my Excel 2000 which I thought would be an 
easy test.  Mirek at Amp got DDE to work on his Excel and stuck his 
electronic arm into my comp but could not get mine to work.

My quest is to find an excellent data feed that does not cost 85 plus 
30/cme per month.  I have Open Tick but even though it continues to 
feed Ninja it stops on MY AMI and yesterday I could not get it 
started again.  I have this dream that TransAct can do it

Dan


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jerry Gress" 
<pleasenospamplease@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Thanks for the info. I see TransAct and Amp have similar order entry
> platforms, so is TransAct the developers? Also found out today that 
E-Cry
> filters their data 8 times per second (per customer service) but 
their rates
> are extremely low, CME $1.35 per side Plus NFA and exchange fees!
> 
> http://www.openecry.com/rates/rates.cfm
> 
> Jerry Gress
> Stockton, Ca.
> 
> PS. During Fed Time today on the same puter AB/IB kept working and 
Ninja
> locked up! Yes I know both on same computer but TJ must have put AB 
in
> front??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf
> Of ab319320
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:29 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> 
> Good News for TranAct Data Feed to AmiBroker but it is up to you to 
> Show an Interest, CALL NOW:
> 
> "I just got off the phone [last thu.] with Bob at TranAct and he 
said
> after talking to his people that if enough people call-in expressing
> an interest in a TransAct data Plug-IN for AmiBroker that they would
> develope a plug-in. He used words that rang sweet to my ears,"oh yes
> it is definitely do-able."
> 
> CALL 800-560-1640 and ask for Bob at ext. 1936 or call 312-431-1936
> 
> Call Now Lets Get This Going.
> 
> One of the TransAct introducing brokers is Amp Futures call 800-560-
> 1640"
> 
> 
> Dan
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bilbo0211" <bilbod@> wrote:
> >
> > Don't be too quick to dismiss the high speed data feeds. They are
> > marketed through brokerage firms. 
> > 
> > The brokers deliver a complete package to their customers (data,
> > charting and trading software, training and support). Because 
Ninja
> > Trader chooses to supply backfill/historical data does not mean
> > Amibroker has to. In these arrangements everything is negotiable. 
If
> > you want to supply software only, I am confident you can find
> > brokerage firms to partner with who will accept that.
> > 
> > This could be a very lucrative arrangement for Amibroker because 
> once
> > the initial programming is done (datafeed support and point and 
> click
> > trading from chart functionality), since the brokers do training,
> > support and collect the money, your customer base would grow and
> > generate additional income with minimal on going effort.
> > 
> > ISTM it is at least worth investigating.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > If they don't have backfill this makes them pretty much useless.
> > > And no, if I were to host historical files, I would be entering 
> data
> > provider bussiness
> > > and then it would be much better to provide full-featured feed 
> than
> > relying on someone else.
> > > Being data provider is not part of my bussiness plan at the 
> moment.
> > > 
> > > I am not going to write plugins to any source that does not have
> > backfill,
> > > you are however free to develop it on your own 
> > >
> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2006/12/15/amibroker-development-
> kit-adk-for-cc-now-available-to-everyone
> > > or use universal DDE plugin as most no-backfill sources provide 
> DDE
> > capability http://www.amibroker.com/dde.html
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@>
> > > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:52 PM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Zenfire is similar to MBTrading; no historical data backfill 
> for 
> > > > charts.  NinjaTrader addresses this issue by maintaining 
their 
> own 
> > > > historical data servers (like TradeStation does).
> > > > 
> > > > TransAct's data feed does have historical chart data.  I 
don't 
> think 
> > > > they have continuous contracts, just historical data for each 
> futures 
> > > > contract.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > > 
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000" <stevehite@> 
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >> The only other broker I know of that is as open as 
Interactive 
> > > >> Brokers is with theirs is MBTrading.  It's a COM interface.
> > > >> 
> > > >> www.mbtrading.com
> > > >> 
> > > >> I don't have an account with them so couldn't tell you about 
> the 
> > > >> quality of their order fills.  They've had this open API for 
> around 
> > > > 4 
> > > >> years and there's no political hoops to jump through to get 
> access 
> > > > to 
> > > >> it.
> > > >> 
> > > >> This wouldn't be an all-in-one solution for someone who 
wants 
> the 
> > > >> brokerage access and the real-time data w/historical 
requests 
> for 
> > > >> their Amibroker chart fills though.  It's just streaming 
real-
> time 
> > > >> data and account transactions through a broker.
> > > >> 
> > > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@> 
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > I went through the excersise of trying to figure out 
Zenfire 
> a 
> > > > few 
> > > >> weeks
> > > >> > ago.  Zenfire is primarily trade execution technology 
which 
> > > > includes
> > > >> > market data.  Apparently, it's based on Rithmic's trade 
> execution
> > > >> > software (www.rithmic.com <http://www.rithmic.com> ) and 7 
> Ticks 
> > > >> network
> > > >> > (www.7ticks.com <http://www.7ticks.com> ).  Since Rithmic 
> and 7 
> > > >> Ticks
> > > >> > want to remain FCM and IB neutral, they do not advertise 
> > > > Zenfire.  I
> > > >> > think Zenfire is a marketing name that either NinjaTrader 
or 
> Mirus
> > > >> > Futures put on the technology.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Mirus Futures is the primary contact for ZenFire 
> > > >> (www.mirusfutures.com
> > > >> > <http://www.mirusfutures.com> ).  They seem to be the 
broker 
> most
> > > >> > influencing Zenfire's functionality.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Since we're discussing broker datafeeds, I think a better 
> fit for
> > > >> > AmiBroker than ZenFire would be TransAct Future's datafeed
> > > >> > (www.transactfutures.com 
> <http://www.transactfutures.com> ).  The 
> > > >> reason
> > > >> > I think it would be a better fit is because TransAct has a 
> > > > complete
> > > >> > order entry platform but lacks charting.  Ensign, Sierra 
> Charts, 
> > > > and
> > > >> > Trade Navigator have already built interfaces with 
TransAct 
> and 
> > > > are
> > > >> > advertised on TransAct's home page.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > David
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 
> http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > d
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
bilbo0211
> > > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:32 PM
> > > >> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Zenfire is not a retail datafeed, I've only seen it 
> offered 
> > > >> through
> > > >> > > > brokers with Ninja Trader. They do not appear to have 
> their
> > > >> > > > own website.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > There may be some relationship between Ninja Trader 
and 
> > > > Zenfire 
> > > >> but
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > > > do not think it is exclusive because NT works with 
many 
> data 
> > > >> feeds.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The 3 brokers I know offer Zenfire are:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 
> http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > http://www.ampfutures.com/zen_fire.html
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> 
> http://www.proactivetrading.com/trading_platforms/ninja_trader.htm
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I'm sure there are others. You should be able to get 
> Zenfire 
> > > >> info
> > > >> > from
> > > >> > > > any of them.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Bill
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> > > >> > > > groups@ wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Sorry, but what this ZenFire is ? I googled for 
> Zenfire and
> > > >> > > > > they don't have a web page ??? All I get are links 
to 
> > > >> Ninjatrader
> > > >> > > > forums.
> > > >> > > > > Seems unprofessional that they did not manage to
> > > >> > > > > have google index their page (if they have any).
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > URL anyone?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Best regards,
> > > >> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > >> > > > > amibroker.com
> > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > From: "bilbo0211" bilbod@
> > > >> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:26 PM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I've been trying to decide which data feed to use 
> and it
> > > >> > > > looks like
> > > >> > > > > > Zenfire is the fastest and most reliable available 
> right
> > > >> > > > now. Every
> > > >> > > > > > professional trader I have talked to that has used
> > > >> > > > Zenfire raves about
> > > >> > > > > > how much better it is than their previous data 
feeds.
> > > >> > > > Also there are
> > > >> > > > > > videos online that traders have posted to compare 
> Zenfire 
> > > > to
> > > >> > other
> > > >> > > > > > datafeeds. During slow market activity there is no 
> > > >> discernable
> > > >> > > > > > difference but when tick volume picks up, the 
> Zenfire fed 
> > > >> charts
> > > >> > > > > > clearly lead sometimes by a substantial amount.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > There was a time when IB's sampled data was an 
> advantage
> > > >> > > > because when
> > > >> > > > > > volume got heavy you always had up-to-date prices 
> while 
> > > >> other
> > > >> > data
> > > >> > > > > > feeds would bog down and deliver delayed data. It 
> looks
> > > >> > > > like Zenfire
> > > >> > > > > > can deliver every tick without delay. There is 
also a
> > > >> > > > rumor that IB is
> > > >> > > > > > loosing customers to brokers who offer the Zenfire 
> data 
> > > >> feed.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > AFAICT, Amibroker does not support Zenfire and 
there 
> are
> > > >> > > > no plans to
> > > >> > > > > > do so, which is a shame because I think it would 
> worked
> > > >> > > > better with
> > > >> > > > > > Zenfire than most charting software. It has never 
> choked
> > > >> > > > on any amount
> > > >> > > > > > of data I have fed into it. Some other programs 
will
> > > >> > > > crash if you try
> > > >> > > > > > to feed them too much data.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Bill
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion 
> between 
> > > > users
> > > >> > only.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-
mail 
> > > >> directly to
> > > >> > > > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news 
always 
> check
> > > >> > DEVLOG:
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > For other support material please check also:
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between 
> users 
> > > >> only.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail 
> directly 
> > > > to
> > > >> > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always 
> check 
> > > >> DEVLOG:
> > > >> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > For other support material please check also:
> > > >> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > >> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users 
> only.
> > > > 
> > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly 
to 
> > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> > > > 
> > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check 
> DEVLOG:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> > > > 
> > > > For other support material please check also:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
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> 
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> 
> For other support material please check also:
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