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RE: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?



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Hi Dan,

Thanks for the info. I see TransAct and Amp have similar order entry
platforms, so is TransAct the developers? Also found out today that E-Cry
filters their data 8 times per second (per customer service) but their rates
are extremely low, CME $1.35 per side Plus NFA and exchange fees!

http://www.openecry.com/rates/rates.cfm

Jerry Gress
Stockton, Ca.

PS. During Fed Time today on the same puter AB/IB kept working and Ninja
locked up! Yes I know both on same computer but TJ must have put AB in
front??





-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of ab319320
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:29 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?

Good News for TranAct Data Feed to AmiBroker but it is up to you to 
Show an Interest, CALL NOW:

"I just got off the phone [last thu.] with Bob at TranAct and he said
after talking to his people that if enough people call-in expressing
an interest in a TransAct data Plug-IN for AmiBroker that they would
develope a plug-in. He used words that rang sweet to my ears,"oh yes
it is definitely do-able."

CALL 800-560-1640 and ask for Bob at ext. 1936 or call 312-431-1936

Call Now Lets Get This Going.

One of the TransAct introducing brokers is Amp Futures call 800-560-
1640"


Dan
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bilbo0211" <bilbod@xxx> wrote:
>
> Don't be too quick to dismiss the high speed data feeds. They are
> marketed through brokerage firms. 
> 
> The brokers deliver a complete package to their customers (data,
> charting and trading software, training and support). Because Ninja
> Trader chooses to supply backfill/historical data does not mean
> Amibroker has to. In these arrangements everything is negotiable. If
> you want to supply software only, I am confident you can find
> brokerage firms to partner with who will accept that.
> 
> This could be a very lucrative arrangement for Amibroker because 
once
> the initial programming is done (datafeed support and point and 
click
> trading from chart functionality), since the brokers do training,
> support and collect the money, your customer base would grow and
> generate additional income with minimal on going effort.
> 
> ISTM it is at least worth investigating.
> 
> Bill
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > If they don't have backfill this makes them pretty much useless.
> > And no, if I were to host historical files, I would be entering 
data
> provider bussiness
> > and then it would be much better to provide full-featured feed 
than
> relying on someone else.
> > Being data provider is not part of my bussiness plan at the 
moment.
> > 
> > I am not going to write plugins to any source that does not have
> backfill,
> > you are however free to develop it on your own 
> >
> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2006/12/15/amibroker-development-
kit-adk-for-cc-now-available-to-everyone
> > or use universal DDE plugin as most no-backfill sources provide 
DDE
> capability http://www.amibroker.com/dde.html
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@>
> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:52 PM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > 
> > 
> > > Zenfire is similar to MBTrading; no historical data backfill 
for 
> > > charts.  NinjaTrader addresses this issue by maintaining their 
own 
> > > historical data servers (like TradeStation does).
> > > 
> > > TransAct's data feed does have historical chart data.  I don't 
think 
> > > they have continuous contracts, just historical data for each 
futures 
> > > contract.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > David
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000" <stevehite@> 
wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> The only other broker I know of that is as open as Interactive 
> > >> Brokers is with theirs is MBTrading.  It's a COM interface.
> > >> 
> > >> www.mbtrading.com
> > >> 
> > >> I don't have an account with them so couldn't tell you about 
the 
> > >> quality of their order fills.  They've had this open API for 
around 
> > > 4 
> > >> years and there's no political hoops to jump through to get 
access 
> > > to 
> > >> it.
> > >> 
> > >> This wouldn't be an all-in-one solution for someone who wants 
the 
> > >> brokerage access and the real-time data w/historical requests 
for 
> > >> their Amibroker chart fills though.  It's just streaming real-
time 
> > >> data and account transactions through a broker.
> > >> 
> > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@> 
wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > 
> > >> > I went through the excersise of trying to figure out Zenfire 
a 
> > > few 
> > >> weeks
> > >> > ago.  Zenfire is primarily trade execution technology which 
> > > includes
> > >> > market data.  Apparently, it's based on Rithmic's trade 
execution
> > >> > software (www.rithmic.com <http://www.rithmic.com> ) and 7 
Ticks 
> > >> network
> > >> > (www.7ticks.com <http://www.7ticks.com> ).  Since Rithmic 
and 7 
> > >> Ticks
> > >> > want to remain FCM and IB neutral, they do not advertise 
> > > Zenfire.  I
> > >> > think Zenfire is a marketing name that either NinjaTrader or 
Mirus
> > >> > Futures put on the technology.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Mirus Futures is the primary contact for ZenFire 
> > >> (www.mirusfutures.com
> > >> > <http://www.mirusfutures.com> ).  They seem to be the broker 
most
> > >> > influencing Zenfire's functionality.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Since we're discussing broker datafeeds, I think a better 
fit for
> > >> > AmiBroker than ZenFire would be TransAct Future's datafeed
> > >> > (www.transactfutures.com 
<http://www.transactfutures.com> ).  The 
> > >> reason
> > >> > I think it would be a better fit is because TransAct has a 
> > > complete
> > >> > order entry platform but lacks charting.  Ensign, Sierra 
Charts, 
> > > and
> > >> > Trade Navigator have already built interfaces with TransAct 
and 
> > > are
> > >> > advertised on TransAct's home page.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > 
> > >> > David
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 
http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> > >> > >
> > >> > > d
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bilbo0211
> > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:32 PM
> > >> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Zenfire is not a retail datafeed, I've only seen it 
offered 
> > >> through
> > >> > > > brokers with Ninja Trader. They do not appear to have 
their
> > >> > > > own website.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > There may be some relationship between Ninja Trader and 
> > > Zenfire 
> > >> but
> > >> > I
> > >> > > > do not think it is exclusive because NT works with many 
data 
> > >> feeds.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The 3 brokers I know offer Zenfire are:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 
http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://www.ampfutures.com/zen_fire.html
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 
> > >> 
http://www.proactivetrading.com/trading_platforms/ninja_trader.htm
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm sure there are others. You should be able to get 
Zenfire 
> > >> info
> > >> > from
> > >> > > > any of them.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Bill
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> > >> > > > groups@ wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Sorry, but what this ZenFire is ? I googled for 
Zenfire and
> > >> > > > > they don't have a web page ??? All I get are links to 
> > >> Ninjatrader
> > >> > > > forums.
> > >> > > > > Seems unprofessional that they did not manage to
> > >> > > > > have google index their page (if they have any).
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > URL anyone?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Best regards,
> > >> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > >> > > > > amibroker.com
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: "bilbo0211" bilbod@
> > >> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:26 PM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Zenfire and Amibroker?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I've been trying to decide which data feed to use 
and it
> > >> > > > looks like
> > >> > > > > > Zenfire is the fastest and most reliable available 
right
> > >> > > > now. Every
> > >> > > > > > professional trader I have talked to that has used
> > >> > > > Zenfire raves about
> > >> > > > > > how much better it is than their previous data feeds.
> > >> > > > Also there are
> > >> > > > > > videos online that traders have posted to compare 
Zenfire 
> > > to
> > >> > other
> > >> > > > > > datafeeds. During slow market activity there is no 
> > >> discernable
> > >> > > > > > difference but when tick volume picks up, the 
Zenfire fed 
> > >> charts
> > >> > > > > > clearly lead sometimes by a substantial amount.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > There was a time when IB's sampled data was an 
advantage
> > >> > > > because when
> > >> > > > > > volume got heavy you always had up-to-date prices 
while 
> > >> other
> > >> > data
> > >> > > > > > feeds would bog down and deliver delayed data. It 
looks
> > >> > > > like Zenfire
> > >> > > > > > can deliver every tick without delay. There is also a
> > >> > > > rumor that IB is
> > >> > > > > > loosing customers to brokers who offer the Zenfire 
data 
> > >> feed.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > AFAICT, Amibroker does not support Zenfire and there 
are
> > >> > > > no plans to
> > >> > > > > > do so, which is a shame because I think it would 
worked
> > >> > > > better with
> > >> > > > > > Zenfire than most charting software. It has never 
choked
> > >> > > > on any amount
> > >> > > > > > of data I have fed into it. Some other programs will
> > >> > > > crash if you try
> > >> > > > > > to feed them too much data.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Bill
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
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