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Re: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?



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Hello,

If they don't have backfill this makes them pretty much useless.
And no, if I were to host historical files, I would be entering data provider bussiness
and then it would be much better to provide full-featured feed than relying on someone else.
Being data provider is not part of my bussiness plan at the moment.

I am not going to write plugins to any source that does not have backfill,
you are however free to develop it on your own 
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2006/12/15/amibroker-development-kit-adk-for-cc-now-available-to-everyone
or use universal DDE plugin as most no-backfill sources provide DDE capability http://www.amibroker.com/dde.html

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?


> Zenfire is similar to MBTrading; no historical data backfill for 
> charts.  NinjaTrader addresses this issue by maintaining their own 
> historical data servers (like TradeStation does).
> 
> TransAct's data feed does have historical chart data.  I don't think 
> they have continuous contracts, just historical data for each futures 
> contract.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000" <stevehite@xxx> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> The only other broker I know of that is as open as Interactive 
>> Brokers is with theirs is MBTrading.  It's a COM interface.
>> 
>> www.mbtrading.com
>> 
>> I don't have an account with them so couldn't tell you about the 
>> quality of their order fills.  They've had this open API for around 
> 4 
>> years and there's no political hoops to jump through to get access 
> to 
>> it.
>> 
>> This wouldn't be an all-in-one solution for someone who wants the 
>> brokerage access and the real-time data w/historical requests for 
>> their Amibroker chart fills though.  It's just streaming real-time 
>> data and account transactions through a broker.
>> 
>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > I went through the excersise of trying to figure out Zenfire a 
> few 
>> weeks
>> > ago.  Zenfire is primarily trade execution technology which 
> includes
>> > market data.  Apparently, it's based on Rithmic's trade execution
>> > software (www.rithmic.com <http://www.rithmic.com> ) and 7 Ticks 
>> network
>> > (www.7ticks.com <http://www.7ticks.com> ).  Since Rithmic and 7 
>> Ticks
>> > want to remain FCM and IB neutral, they do not advertise 
> Zenfire.  I
>> > think Zenfire is a marketing name that either NinjaTrader or Mirus
>> > Futures put on the technology.
>> > 
>> > Mirus Futures is the primary contact for ZenFire 
>> (www.mirusfutures.com
>> > <http://www.mirusfutures.com> ).  They seem to be the broker most
>> > influencing Zenfire's functionality.
>> > 
>> > Since we're discussing broker datafeeds, I think a better fit for
>> > AmiBroker than ZenFire would be TransAct Future's datafeed
>> > (www.transactfutures.com <http://www.transactfutures.com> ).  The 
>> reason
>> > I think it would be a better fit is because TransAct has a 
> complete
>> > order entry platform but lacks charting.  Ensign, Sierra Charts, 
> and
>> > Trade Navigator have already built interfaces with TransAct and 
> are
>> > advertised on TransAct's home page.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > 
>> > David
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
>> > >
>> > > d
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bilbo0211
>> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:32 PM
>> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
>> > > >
>> > > > Zenfire is not a retail datafeed, I've only seen it offered 
>> through
>> > > > brokers with Ninja Trader. They do not appear to have their
>> > > > own website.
>> > > >
>> > > > There may be some relationship between Ninja Trader and 
> Zenfire 
>> but
>> > I
>> > > > do not think it is exclusive because NT works with many data 
>> feeds.
>> > > >
>> > > > The 3 brokers I know offer Zenfire are:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.ampfutures.com/zen_fire.html
>> > > >
>> > > > 
>> http://www.proactivetrading.com/trading_platforms/ninja_trader.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm sure there are others. You should be able to get Zenfire 
>> info
>> > from
>> > > > any of them.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bill
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
>> > > > groups@ wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sorry, but what this ZenFire is ? I googled for Zenfire and
>> > > > > they don't have a web page ??? All I get are links to 
>> Ninjatrader
>> > > > forums.
>> > > > > Seems unprofessional that they did not manage to
>> > > > > have google index their page (if they have any).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > URL anyone?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
>> > > > > amibroker.com
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "bilbo0211" bilbod@
>> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:26 PM
>> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Zenfire and Amibroker?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I've been trying to decide which data feed to use and it
>> > > > looks like
>> > > > > > Zenfire is the fastest and most reliable available right
>> > > > now. Every
>> > > > > > professional trader I have talked to that has used
>> > > > Zenfire raves about
>> > > > > > how much better it is than their previous data feeds.
>> > > > Also there are
>> > > > > > videos online that traders have posted to compare Zenfire 
> to
>> > other
>> > > > > > datafeeds. During slow market activity there is no 
>> discernable
>> > > > > > difference but when tick volume picks up, the Zenfire fed 
>> charts
>> > > > > > clearly lead sometimes by a substantial amount.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > There was a time when IB's sampled data was an advantage
>> > > > because when
>> > > > > > volume got heavy you always had up-to-date prices while 
>> other
>> > data
>> > > > > > feeds would bog down and deliver delayed data. It looks
>> > > > like Zenfire
>> > > > > > can deliver every tick without delay. There is also a
>> > > > rumor that IB is
>> > > > > > loosing customers to brokers who offer the Zenfire data 
>> feed.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > AFAICT, Amibroker does not support Zenfire and there are
>> > > > no plans to
>> > > > > > do so, which is a shame because I think it would worked
>> > > > better with
>> > > > > > Zenfire than most charting software. It has never choked
>> > > > on any amount
>> > > > > > of data I have fed into it. Some other programs will
>> > > > crash if you try
>> > > > > > to feed them too much data.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Bill
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
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>> > > >
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