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Of course, only 'useless' if you don't already have a real-time
provider like eSignal. But I get your point...YOU'RE not going to do
it.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> If they don't have backfill this makes them pretty much useless.
> And no, if I were to host historical files, I would be entering
data provider bussiness
> and then it would be much better to provide full-featured feed than
relying on someone else.
> Being data provider is not part of my bussiness plan at the moment.
>
> I am not going to write plugins to any source that does not have
backfill,
> you are however free to develop it on your own
> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2006/12/15/amibroker-development-
kit-adk-for-cc-now-available-to-everyone
> or use universal DDE plugin as most no-backfill sources provide DDE
capability http://www.amibroker.com/dde.html
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:52 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
>
>
> > Zenfire is similar to MBTrading; no historical data backfill for
> > charts. NinjaTrader addresses this issue by maintaining their
own
> > historical data servers (like TradeStation does).
> >
> > TransAct's data feed does have historical chart data. I don't
think
> > they have continuous contracts, just historical data for each
futures
> > contract.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000" <stevehite@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The only other broker I know of that is as open as Interactive
> >> Brokers is with theirs is MBTrading. It's a COM interface.
> >>
> >> www.mbtrading.com
> >>
> >> I don't have an account with them so couldn't tell you about the
> >> quality of their order fills. They've had this open API for
around
> > 4
> >> years and there's no political hoops to jump through to get
access
> > to
> >> it.
> >>
> >> This wouldn't be an all-in-one solution for someone who wants
the
> >> brokerage access and the real-time data w/historical requests
for
> >> their Amibroker chart fills though. It's just streaming real-
time
> >> data and account transactions through a broker.
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I went through the excersise of trying to figure out Zenfire a
> > few
> >> weeks
> >> > ago. Zenfire is primarily trade execution technology which
> > includes
> >> > market data. Apparently, it's based on Rithmic's trade
execution
> >> > software (www.rithmic.com <http://www.rithmic.com> ) and 7
Ticks
> >> network
> >> > (www.7ticks.com <http://www.7ticks.com> ). Since Rithmic and
7
> >> Ticks
> >> > want to remain FCM and IB neutral, they do not advertise
> > Zenfire. I
> >> > think Zenfire is a marketing name that either NinjaTrader or
Mirus
> >> > Futures put on the technology.
> >> >
> >> > Mirus Futures is the primary contact for ZenFire
> >> (www.mirusfutures.com
> >> > <http://www.mirusfutures.com> ). They seem to be the broker
most
> >> > influencing Zenfire's functionality.
> >> >
> >> > Since we're discussing broker datafeeds, I think a better fit
for
> >> > AmiBroker than ZenFire would be TransAct Future's datafeed
> >> > (www.transactfutures.com <http://www.transactfutures.com> ).
The
> >> reason
> >> > I think it would be a better fit is because TransAct has a
> > complete
> >> > order entry platform but lacks charting. Ensign, Sierra
Charts,
> > and
> >> > Trade Navigator have already built interfaces with TransAct
and
> > are
> >> > advertised on TransAct's home page.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > d
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bilbo0211
> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:32 PM
> >> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Zenfire is not a retail datafeed, I've only seen it
offered
> >> through
> >> > > > brokers with Ninja Trader. They do not appear to have their
> >> > > > own website.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There may be some relationship between Ninja Trader and
> > Zenfire
> >> but
> >> > I
> >> > > > do not think it is exclusive because NT works with many
data
> >> feeds.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The 3 brokers I know offer Zenfire are:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.ampfutures.com/zen_fire.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >>
http://www.proactivetrading.com/trading_platforms/ninja_trader.htm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm sure there are others. You should be able to get
Zenfire
> >> info
> >> > from
> >> > > > any of them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Bill
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> >> > > > groups@ wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Sorry, but what this ZenFire is ? I googled for Zenfire
and
> >> > > > > they don't have a web page ??? All I get are links to
> >> Ninjatrader
> >> > > > forums.
> >> > > > > Seems unprofessional that they did not manage to
> >> > > > > have google index their page (if they have any).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > URL anyone?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> >> > > > > amibroker.com
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "bilbo0211" bilbod@
> >> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:26 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Zenfire and Amibroker?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I've been trying to decide which data feed to use and
it
> >> > > > looks like
> >> > > > > > Zenfire is the fastest and most reliable available
right
> >> > > > now. Every
> >> > > > > > professional trader I have talked to that has used
> >> > > > Zenfire raves about
> >> > > > > > how much better it is than their previous data feeds.
> >> > > > Also there are
> >> > > > > > videos online that traders have posted to compare
Zenfire
> > to
> >> > other
> >> > > > > > datafeeds. During slow market activity there is no
> >> discernable
> >> > > > > > difference but when tick volume picks up, the Zenfire
fed
> >> charts
> >> > > > > > clearly lead sometimes by a substantial amount.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > There was a time when IB's sampled data was an
advantage
> >> > > > because when
> >> > > > > > volume got heavy you always had up-to-date prices
while
> >> other
> >> > data
> >> > > > > > feeds would bog down and deliver delayed data. It looks
> >> > > > like Zenfire
> >> > > > > > can deliver every tick without delay. There is also a
> >> > > > rumor that IB is
> >> > > > > > loosing customers to brokers who offer the Zenfire
data
> >> feed.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > AFAICT, Amibroker does not support Zenfire and there
are
> >> > > > no plans to
> >> > > > > > do so, which is a shame because I think it would worked
> >> > > > better with
> >> > > > > > Zenfire than most charting software. It has never
choked
> >> > > > on any amount
> >> > > > > > of data I have fed into it. Some other programs will
> >> > > > crash if you try
> >> > > > > > to feed them too much data.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Bill
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
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> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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