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Don't be too quick to dismiss the high speed data feeds. They are
marketed through brokerage firms.
The brokers deliver a complete package to their customers (data,
charting and trading software, training and support). Because Ninja
Trader chooses to supply backfill/historical data does not mean
Amibroker has to. In these arrangements everything is negotiable. If
you want to supply software only, I am confident you can find
brokerage firms to partner with who will accept that.
This could be a very lucrative arrangement for Amibroker because once
the initial programming is done (datafeed support and point and click
trading from chart functionality), since the brokers do training,
support and collect the money, your customer base would grow and
generate additional income with minimal on going effort.
ISTM it is at least worth investigating.
Bill
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> If they don't have backfill this makes them pretty much useless.
> And no, if I were to host historical files, I would be entering data
provider bussiness
> and then it would be much better to provide full-featured feed than
relying on someone else.
> Being data provider is not part of my bussiness plan at the moment.
>
> I am not going to write plugins to any source that does not have
backfill,
> you are however free to develop it on your own
>
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2006/12/15/amibroker-development-kit-adk-for-cc-now-available-to-everyone
> or use universal DDE plugin as most no-backfill sources provide DDE
capability http://www.amibroker.com/dde.html
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:52 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
>
>
> > Zenfire is similar to MBTrading; no historical data backfill for
> > charts. NinjaTrader addresses this issue by maintaining their own
> > historical data servers (like TradeStation does).
> >
> > TransAct's data feed does have historical chart data. I don't think
> > they have continuous contracts, just historical data for each futures
> > contract.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "scourt2000" <stevehite@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The only other broker I know of that is as open as Interactive
> >> Brokers is with theirs is MBTrading. It's a COM interface.
> >>
> >> www.mbtrading.com
> >>
> >> I don't have an account with them so couldn't tell you about the
> >> quality of their order fills. They've had this open API for around
> > 4
> >> years and there's no political hoops to jump through to get access
> > to
> >> it.
> >>
> >> This wouldn't be an all-in-one solution for someone who wants the
> >> brokerage access and the real-time data w/historical requests for
> >> their Amibroker chart fills though. It's just streaming real-time
> >> data and account transactions through a broker.
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dbwyatt_1999" <dbw451@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I went through the excersise of trying to figure out Zenfire a
> > few
> >> weeks
> >> > ago. Zenfire is primarily trade execution technology which
> > includes
> >> > market data. Apparently, it's based on Rithmic's trade execution
> >> > software (www.rithmic.com <http://www.rithmic.com> ) and 7 Ticks
> >> network
> >> > (www.7ticks.com <http://www.7ticks.com> ). Since Rithmic and 7
> >> Ticks
> >> > want to remain FCM and IB neutral, they do not advertise
> > Zenfire. I
> >> > think Zenfire is a marketing name that either NinjaTrader or Mirus
> >> > Futures put on the technology.
> >> >
> >> > Mirus Futures is the primary contact for ZenFire
> >> (www.mirusfutures.com
> >> > <http://www.mirusfutures.com> ). They seem to be the broker most
> >> > influencing Zenfire's functionality.
> >> >
> >> > Since we're discussing broker datafeeds, I think a better fit for
> >> > AmiBroker than ZenFire would be TransAct Future's datafeed
> >> > (www.transactfutures.com <http://www.transactfutures.com> ). The
> >> reason
> >> > I think it would be a better fit is because TransAct has a
> > complete
> >> > order entry platform but lacks charting. Ensign, Sierra Charts,
> > and
> >> > Trade Navigator have already built interfaces with TransAct and
> > are
> >> > advertised on TransAct's home page.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > David
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > d
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bilbo0211
> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:32 PM
> >> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Zenfire and Amibroker?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Zenfire is not a retail datafeed, I've only seen it offered
> >> through
> >> > > > brokers with Ninja Trader. They do not appear to have their
> >> > > > own website.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There may be some relationship between Ninja Trader and
> > Zenfire
> >> but
> >> > I
> >> > > > do not think it is exclusive because NT works with many data
> >> feeds.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The 3 brokers I know offer Zenfire are:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.mirusfutures.com/futures_broker_company_zenfire.htm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.ampfutures.com/zen_fire.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> http://www.proactivetrading.com/trading_platforms/ninja_trader.htm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm sure there are others. You should be able to get Zenfire
> >> info
> >> > from
> >> > > > any of them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Bill
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko"
> >> > > > groups@ wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Sorry, but what this ZenFire is ? I googled for Zenfire and
> >> > > > > they don't have a web page ??? All I get are links to
> >> Ninjatrader
> >> > > > forums.
> >> > > > > Seems unprofessional that they did not manage to
> >> > > > > have google index their page (if they have any).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > URL anyone?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> >> > > > > amibroker.com
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "bilbo0211" bilbod@
> >> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:26 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Zenfire and Amibroker?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I've been trying to decide which data feed to use and it
> >> > > > looks like
> >> > > > > > Zenfire is the fastest and most reliable available right
> >> > > > now. Every
> >> > > > > > professional trader I have talked to that has used
> >> > > > Zenfire raves about
> >> > > > > > how much better it is than their previous data feeds.
> >> > > > Also there are
> >> > > > > > videos online that traders have posted to compare Zenfire
> > to
> >> > other
> >> > > > > > datafeeds. During slow market activity there is no
> >> discernable
> >> > > > > > difference but when tick volume picks up, the Zenfire fed
> >> charts
> >> > > > > > clearly lead sometimes by a substantial amount.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > There was a time when IB's sampled data was an advantage
> >> > > > because when
> >> > > > > > volume got heavy you always had up-to-date prices while
> >> other
> >> > data
> >> > > > > > feeds would bog down and deliver delayed data. It looks
> >> > > > like Zenfire
> >> > > > > > can deliver every tick without delay. There is also a
> >> > > > rumor that IB is
> >> > > > > > loosing customers to brokers who offer the Zenfire data
> >> feed.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > AFAICT, Amibroker does not support Zenfire and there are
> >> > > > no plans to
> >> > > > > > do so, which is a shame because I think it would worked
> >> > > > better with
> >> > > > > > Zenfire than most charting software. It has never choked
> >> > > > on any amount
> >> > > > > > of data I have fed into it. Some other programs will
> >> > > > crash if you try
> >> > > > > > to feed them too much data.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Bill
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between
> > users
> >> > only.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail
> >> directly to
> >> > > > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check
> >> > DEVLOG:
> >> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > For other support material please check also:
> >> > > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ------------------------------------
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users
> >> only.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly
> > to
> >> > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check
> >> DEVLOG:
> >> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For other support material please check also:
> >> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> >> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
> >
> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >
> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >
> > For other support material please check also:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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