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Hello,
You got it ALL WRONG !
AmiBroker 5.0 ***DOES WORK*** with UAC enabled !!!!
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AmiBroker 5.0 is fully Vista compatible and it DOES WORK
on limited user account!
The only thing that need to be done with Admin account is
to run SETUP (but this is the same for all application).
And there is simple reason for that - AmIBroker exposes OLE
automation interface (unlike many other apps) and registering OLE
requries admin rights - send complaints to MICROSOFT not me.
AmiBroker can save to ANY folder of your choice,
it just depends on "Start In" property of the shortcut you use to start AmiBroker.
So if you set it to "Documents and settings" you can use that folder!
Simple as that.
The reason why it default to exe folder are many fold:
a) backward compatibility (Win 95/98)
b) compatiblity with USB drives - so you can run AmiBroker from thumbdrive,
without leaving traces in "C:\Document and Settings" on public computer.
c) easier management - everything that is connected with a program in one place - so it is easy to backup /restore
via simple FILE COPY.
For example - I don't install programs into C:\Program files at all !!!
This is extremely silly thing to do to install programs onto your system (C: drive).
The fact that Microsoft puts everything on C: does not mean that it is good idea.
You should have SEPARATE partition for programs and SEPARATE for operating system.
That way system partion can be smaller and periodical backups of system partition are easier/quicker to perform and smaller.
So that's why default is such as is, but you are free to follow
Microsoft - setup your "Start In" property to point to your documents and settings (copy AB config files there: all broker.* files
except DLLs and EXE)
As to saying that I disable UAC on my machine - yes I do so, but not because of AmiBroker,
but because of Microsoft's OWN APPLICATION named: Visual Studio 6.0 Professional, that does not work
with UAC enabled.
So throw stones at Microsoft, not me.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ludwig" <Thomas.Ludwig@xxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP / Vista
> TJ,
>
> quite frankly, I find it a little bit strange that you recommend to
> disable UAC - it's an important security feature in Vista after all.
> The reason why AB doesn't work with UAC is the same reason why AB
> doesn't work properly in a limited user account under XP. I know that
> most XP users are permanently logged on as admin. Nevertheless, any
> application compliant to the Microsoft standards should save its
> settings and data in the respective c:\Documents and Settings\<user>
> folder (and - if needed - in the respective HKCU registry branch) as
> all newer applications do.
>
> AB simply doesn't do that. I tried it: I changed all paths in the
> settings menu and AA to another folder and moved the relevant
> subfolders to that folder, but AB still tries to save some data in c:
> \Program Files. And that's also the reason why it doesn't work with UAC
> under Vista. The only way how to circumvent this problem is either
> installation in a folder different from c:\Program Files where the user
> has write permission or to start AB with admin rights every time. But
> that's really not what's intended.
>
> Are you planning to change that behaviour in the foreseable future?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas
>
>> At least AmiBroker runs fine on Vista. I have Vista on my notebook
>> and it is just fine. As long as you run 32 bit Vista and you disable
>> some new features like SuperFetch and UAC, Vista behaves pretty much
>> the same as XP.
>> Most problems people have with Vista come from UAC (user access
>> control) that creates compatibility issues for old applications. As
>> soon as you turn that off (from Control Panel) there are no problems
>> in installing programs from even from 1998.
>>
>> The RAM consumption people are afraid of is
>> a result of superfetch feature that loads every program you use
>> frequently on startup, but it can be easily disabled. Sooner of later
>> Microsoft will tell people that XP is no longer supported.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: MillowenaJuno
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP / Vista
>>
>>
>> I've heard too many complaints about vista to even consider it at
>> this point. Most vendors will supply XP if you insist. Why be a
>> beta tester for Micorsoft's latest?
>>
>> M
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ara Kaloustian
>> To: AB-Main
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:20 PM
>> Subject: [amibroker] OT: XP / Vista
>>
>>
>> I am about to buy a laptop ... wondering if I should get it with
>> XP or Vista.
>>
>> I am quite happy with my XPs so I'd rather stay with it unless
>> there is some compelling reason to migrate to Vista.
>>
>> Appreciate any feedback
>>
>> Ara
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> 2/27/2008 4:34 PM
>
>
>
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