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> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:59 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Discussion about Params,
> hierarchical, conditional, tricks...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have noticed a small gotcha to my method of Params --you must not
> "Label" two params the same thing, even though they are in different
> "pseudo sections". The displayed label for a param is the "Name"
> that it is known by internally (with the addition of the real
> section
> name appended to it, etc.).
>
> Normally _Section_Begin("SectionName") could be used to "divide"
> params up so that when you have for instance, 2 moving average
> sections, and want to label a param in each as "Periods" there is no
> conflict. However, it also displays a top level menu item in the
> params window.
>
> I have replaced menu sections with my own top level menus. in order
> to conserve param window space, I do not use the sections
> commands to
> divide parameters, or if I do, I would have to call the section name
> "" to keep it from displaying anything in the Params window --which
> does not solve this problem.
>
> I would like to be able to use the _Section commands, but be able to
> suppress the output to the Params window or solve the problem
> in some
> other way --to be able to display a param label that is not always
> unique for esthetic reasons. I have a unique "ParamName" for every
> param of course, but I would not like to display that as part of the
> displayed label name.
>
> Ideas anybody?
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
> On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > I have not run a speed test other than just watching the "display
> > chart timing" preference. I can not see any time difference between
> > a a fully open and a collapsed window (which only executes half the
> > parameter code). So I would have to say it is in the noise
> level. I
> > have a lot of very compute intensive indicators, and that
> is where my
> > time goes. However, I have been making progress on creating new
> > algorithmic approaches to some which have gained me an order of
> > magnitude speed increase. That has given me the breathing room to
> > move forward with my system ideas.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > On Sep 11, 2007, at 1:39 AM, J. Biran wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am just curious, does using this very impressive code
> slow down AB?
> >>
> >>
> >> Joseph Biran
> >> ____________________________________________
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf
> >> Of Dennis Brown
> >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:44 AM
> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Discussion about Params, hierarchical,
> >> conditional, tricks...
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have uploaded a new version (2.1) to the AB Formula Library
> >> "Flexible Parameter Layouts Version 2.1"
> >>
> >> I made it much more friendly when starting a new chart
> with it, and I
> >> also added a button for resetting all parameters to
> defaults --hidden
> >> or not. It turned out to be easier than I thought to do that --I
> >> just force all the menus open for one pass of the reset to
> defaults.
> >> It can also be tried without installing AutoIt now because it lets
> >> you know with a popup window that it is not installed and
> asks you to
> >> Manually click the Reset all button when needed (a pain, but it is
> >> polite).
> >>
> >> This is getting closer to being ready to put on the UKB.
> >> Critical comments on my AFL are very welcome.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 8, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry to respond with criticism of my own post so soon, but one of
> >>> the things I do not like about my new Params methods is
> that when a
> >>> new chart is started, a new set of param files have to be created,
> >>> and the only way to initialize them to their defaults is to open
> >>> every level (which can be tricky with a lot of sub menus)
> and click
> >>> the reset all open params. I would like to be able to
> just start
> >>> out
> >>> with everything initialized by a single "Reset ALL" button.
> >>>
> >>> I can do that easily enough. However, I did not want to
> give up the
> >>> ability to also reset only the open params. Doing both
> means that I
> >>> would have to supply the default values in two different places in
> >>> the AFL. I really only wanted to specify the default value in one
> >>> place to remove possible errors --so I would have to
> assign another
> >>> bunch of intermediate variables just to hold default values.
> >>>
> >>> The reason I am mentioning this is because I want to
> publish this in
> >>> the UKB, but I want to do it right the first time that
> covers all
> >>> the
> >>> bases with a solution that is simple to use. I wanted to get some
> >>> other takes or implementation ideas on this reset to default issue
> >>> before I do a lot of rewriting of my AFL and examples.
> >>>
> >>> Just to recap, the form that a param takes is two parts.
> The first
> >>> reference is the one that always reads in the param value
> every AFL
> >>> pass (first pass from a file, other passes from a static
> variable).
> >>> The second reference is made inside some conditional AFL and is
> >>> executed only if the param is open in the Parameters
> window. The
> >>> new
> >>> form would look like:
> >>>
> >>> myParamVar = GetParamVar("ParamName", defaultxxx=default); //this
> >>> default on for Reset ALL Params
> >>>
> >>> if (thisMenuIsOpen)
> >>> {
> >>> myParamVar = Param2("paramName", "ButtonText",
> defaultxxx, minVal,
> >>> maxVal, stepVal); //this default on for Reset Visible Params
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Comments?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Dennis
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 8, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for your interest.
> >>>>
> >>>> I created and uploaded an Example AFL to the AmiBroker Library
> >>>> under
> >>>> the name:
> >>>> Flexible Parameter Layouts Version 2.0
> >>>>
> >>>> Enjoy, and please give feedback for improvements.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Experienced AFL Scripters,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have completed coding a complete replacement set of AFL
> >>>>> Param...()
> >>>>> functions that save the parameters in files and allow
> hierarchical
> >>>>> menus including conditional menus (like if different ParamList()
> >>>>> selections need to show additional or different parameters). It
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> remembers the last state of the open menus.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They look just like the old param... statements, except with the
> >>>>> addition of a name for the saved parameter, and there are some
> >>>>> differences with how they are used in the AFL structure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It requires installing the free AutoIt (see below) to function
> >>>>> properly (AutoIt installs a COM that lets AFL push the
> "Reset all"
> >>>>> button on the parameters window).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can not successfully mix old style and new style
> params in the
> >>>>> same set window (because the new ones will keep
> resetting the old
> >>>>> ones to default values),
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The new top level menus do not have the nice darker tan color of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> original.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will go to the effort of uploading an example set of these if
> >>>>> anyone is interested in using or playing with them.
> >>>>> However, only more experienced AFL scripters should
> attempt to use
> >>>>> these.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (I attached a couple of screen shots to the end of this
> email for
> >>>>> those who get the email version)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bruce,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you. This is great!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have it running and I am recoding my params AFL logic to take
> >>>>>> advantage of single click operation (since the second click is
> >>>>>> automatic now). This opens up a lot of other things I wanted
> >>>>>> to do
> >>>>>> with the UI but could not do it with AFL before.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stay tuned!
> >>>>>> Thanks again,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:43 PM, bruce1r wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AFL code fragment -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> autoit = CreateStaticObject( "AutoItX3.Control" );
> >>>>>>> if ( ! IsNull( autoit ) )
> >>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>> rc = autoit.controlclick( "Properties of:", "Reset all",
> >>>>>>> 403 );
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AutoItX COM control can be found at -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/downloads.php
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you for your comments. That helps me understand how
> >>>>>>>> far I
> >>>>>>>> might take this idea on my own.
> >>>>>>>> I appreciate that you are open minded about how
> people may use
> >>>>>>>> AB in
> >>>>>>>> ways not originally intended.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A question for you or anyone else:
> >>>>>>>> I am not a Windows programmer (I run everything on Macs --I
> >>>>>>>> use a
> >>>>>>>> virtual XP for AB).
> >>>>>>>> I was wondering if it is possible for AFL (perhaps through a
> >>>>>>>> DLL) to
> >>>>>>>> click the Parameter Window "Reset all" button for me?
> >>>>>>>> (short of a robotic mouse of course)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Param window was designed to be used as parameters for
> >>>>>>>>> indicators
> >>>>>>>>> exactly the way as
> >>>>>>>>> formulas shipped with AmiBroker use them. And that won't be
> >>>>>>>>> changed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You are free however to (ab)use it in any other way you
> >>>>>>>>> want :-)
> >>>>>>>>> Here is the beauty of AmiBroker that it actually
> allows to be
> >>>>>>>>> used
> >>>>>>>>> in ways that were not
> >>>>>>>>> originally designed for unlike products from other, bigger
> >>>>>>>>> companies that usually
> >>>>>>>>> apply the design of "the program knows better than you".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am often asked why program "does not prevent from doing
> >>>>>>>>> this or
> >>>>>>>>> that". And the answer
> >>>>>>>>> is the flexibility - you can do what you want as long as you
> >>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>> what you are doing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
> >>
>
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