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Joe,

I have not run a speed test other than just watching the "display  
chart timing" preference.  I can not see any time difference between  
a a fully open and a collapsed window (which only executes half the  
parameter code).  So I would have to say it is in the noise level.  I  
have a lot of very compute intensive indicators, and that is where my  
time goes.  However, I have been making progress on creating new  
algorithmic approaches to some which have gained me an order of  
magnitude speed increase.  That has given me the breathing room to  
move forward with my system ideas.

Dennis

On Sep 11, 2007, at 1:39 AM, J. Biran wrote:

>
> I am just curious, does using this very impressive code slow down AB?
>
>
> Joseph Biran
> ____________________________________________
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  
> On Behalf
> Of Dennis Brown
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Discussion about Params, hierarchical,
> conditional, tricks...
>
> Hello,
>
> I have uploaded a new version (2.1) to the AB Formula Library
> "Flexible Parameter Layouts Version 2.1"
>
> I made it much more friendly when starting a new chart with it, and I
> also added a button for resetting all parameters to defaults --hidden
> or not.  It turned out to be easier than I thought to do that --I
> just force all the menus open for one pass of the reset to defaults.
> It can also be tried without installing AutoIt now because it lets
> you know with a popup window that it is not installed and asks you to
> Manually click the Reset all button when needed (a pain, but it is
> polite).
>
> This is getting closer to being ready to put on the UKB.
> Critical comments on my AFL are very welcome.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry to respond with criticism of my own post so soon, but one of
>> the things I do not like about my new Params methods is that when a
>> new chart is started, a new set of param files have to be created,
>> and the only way to initialize them to their defaults is to open
>> every level (which can be tricky with a lot of sub menus) and click
>> the reset all open params.  I would like to be able to just start out
>> with everything initialized by a single "Reset ALL" button.
>>
>> I can do that easily enough.  However, I did not want to give up the
>> ability to also reset only the open params.  Doing both means that I
>> would have to supply the default values in two different places in
>> the AFL.  I really only wanted to specify the default value in one
>> place to remove possible errors --so I would have to assign another
>> bunch of intermediate variables just to hold default values.
>>
>> The reason I am mentioning this is because I want to publish this in
>> the UKB, but I want to do it right the first time that covers all the
>> bases with a solution that is simple to use.  I wanted to get some
>> other takes or implementation ideas on this reset to default issue
>> before I do a lot of rewriting of my AFL and examples.
>>
>> Just to recap, the form that a param takes is two parts.  The first
>> reference is the one that always reads in the param value every AFL
>> pass (first pass from a file, other passes from a static variable).
>> The second reference is made inside some conditional AFL and is
>> executed only if the param is open in the Parameters window.  The new
>> form would look like:
>>
>> myParamVar = GetParamVar("ParamName", defaultxxx=default);  //this
>> default on for Reset ALL Params
>>
>> if (thisMenuIsOpen)
>> {
>> 	myParamVar = Param2("paramName", "ButtonText", defaultxxx, minVal,
>> maxVal, stepVal);  //this default on for Reset Visible Params
>> }
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your interest.
>>>
>>> I created and uploaded an Example AFL to the AmiBroker Library under
>>> the name:
>>> Flexible Parameter Layouts Version 2.0
>>>
>>> Enjoy, and please give feedback for improvements.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Experienced AFL Scripters,
>>>>
>>>> I have completed coding a complete replacement set of AFL  
>>>> Param...()
>>>> functions that save the parameters in files and allow hierarchical
>>>> menus including conditional menus (like if different ParamList()
>>>> selections need to show additional or different parameters).  It
>>>> also
>>>> remembers the last state of the open menus.
>>>>
>>>> They look just like the old param... statements, except with the
>>>> addition of a name for the saved parameter, and there are some
>>>> differences with how they are used in the AFL structure.
>>>>
>>>> It requires installing the free AutoIt (see below) to function
>>>> properly (AutoIt installs a COM that lets AFL push the "Reset all"
>>>> button on the parameters window).
>>>>
>>>> You can not successfully mix old style and new style params in the
>>>> same set window (because the new ones will keep resetting the old
>>>> ones to default values),
>>>>
>>>> The new top level menus do not have the nice darker tan color of  
>>>> the
>>>> original.
>>>>
>>>> I will go to the effort of uploading an example set of these if
>>>> anyone is interested in using or playing with them.
>>>> However, only more experienced AFL scripters should attempt to use
>>>> these.
>>>>
>>>> Just let me know.
>>>>
>>>> (I attached a couple of screen shots to the end of this email for
>>>> those who get the email version)
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.  This is great!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have it running and I am recoding my params AFL logic to take
>>>>> advantage of single click operation (since the second click is
>>>>> automatic now).  This opens up a lot of other things I wanted  
>>>>> to do
>>>>> with the UI but could not do it with AFL before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned!
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:43 PM, bruce1r wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AFL code fragment -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> autoit = CreateStaticObject( "AutoItX3.Control" );
>>>>>> if ( ! IsNull( autoit ) )
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>      rc = autoit.controlclick( "Properties of:", "Reset all",
>>>>>> 403 );
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AutoItX COM control can be found at -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/downloads.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your comments.  That helps me understand how far I
>>>>>>> might take this idea on my own.
>>>>>>> I appreciate that you are open minded about how people may use
>>>>>>> AB in
>>>>>>> ways not originally intended.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A question for you or anyone else:
>>>>>>> I am not a Windows programmer (I run everything on Macs --I  
>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>> virtual XP for AB).
>>>>>>> I was wondering if it is possible for AFL (perhaps through a
>>>>>>> DLL) to
>>>>>>> click the Parameter Window "Reset all" button for me?
>>>>>>> (short of a robotic mouse of course)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Param window was designed to be used as parameters for
>>>>>>>> indicators
>>>>>>>> exactly the way as
>>>>>>>> formulas shipped with AmiBroker use them. And that won't be
>>>>>>>> changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are free however to (ab)use it in any other way you  
>>>>>>>> want :-)
>>>>>>>> Here is the beauty of AmiBroker that it actually allows to be
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> in ways that were not
>>>>>>>> originally designed for unlike products from other, bigger
>>>>>>>> companies that usually
>>>>>>>> apply the design of "the program knows better than you".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am often asked why program "does not prevent from doing
>>>>>>>> this or
>>>>>>>> that". And the answer
>>>>>>>> is the flexibility - you can do what you want as long as you
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> what you are doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
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