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Keith,
Yes. Thats what I was saying.
Keith McCombs wrote:
>
> Michael --
> "walking across a synthetic carpet etc., then contacting the
> components" (before touching the outside metal case) is, in fact, a
> very easy way to destroy a computer. Been there, done that.
> -- Keith
>
> Michael.S.G. wrote:
>
>> Sorry Ara/Ken,
>> I think this is a non issue. Else we would be having static build up
>> just from all the FANs already in PC's.
>> More of a problem would be walking across a synthetic carpet etc then
>> contacting the components.
>> ATB
>> MSG
>>
>> Ken Henderson wrote:
>> >
>> > The same applies when using a vacuum cleaner to suck up dust. It to,
>> > will create static.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > *From:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Ara Kaloustian
>> > *Sent:* Sunday, 17 September 2006 1:31 AM
>> > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Careful with compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static
>> > electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joe Landry" <jelandry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>
>> > <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>>
>> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>> >
>> > > Hi Yuki:
>> > >
>> > > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the
>> accumulation,
>> > > rather than
>> > > risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a
>> > > vacuum
>> > > cleaner or poking around with a
>> > > toothpick.
>> > > I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment
>> and the
>> > > gas
>> > > is said to be non ozone depleting.
>> > > DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards
>> > > JOE
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Yuki Taga" <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>
>> > <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>>
>> > > To: "Keith McCombs" <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Keith,
>> > >>
>> > >> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
>> > >>
>> > >> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
>> > >> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
>> > >> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing
>> off,
>> > >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
>> > >>
>> > >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of
>> > >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What
>> > >> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain
>> over the
>> > >> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on
>> > >> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
>> > >> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for. There
>> > >> are no more curtains, but I can see dust.
>> > >>
>> > >> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always
>> > >> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
>> > >> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit
>> > >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor deal.
>> > >>
>> > >> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its
>> ambient,
>> > >> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it
>> > >> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any
>> longer. It
>> > >> gives me board and CPU temps, however.
>> > >>
>> > >> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go,
>> > >> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long
>> > >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been
>> > >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just fails,
>> > >> that is most likely the seat of the problem.
>> > >>
>> > >> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum
>> > >> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that
>> > >> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action from it's
>> > >> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
>> > >> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
>> > >> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can
>> > >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing along with
>> > >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious what was
>> > >> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once
>> > >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more dust in
>> > >> there.
>> > >>
>> > >> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be
>> pretty
>> > >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz).
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks all,
>> > >>
>> > >> Yuki
>> > >>
>> > >> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a
>> small
>> > >> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records
>> > >> temperatures.
>> > >> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems
>> > >> (computer
>> > >> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
>> > cleaning the
>> > >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan
>> and cpu,
>> > >> but
>> > >> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two
>> years of
>> > >> dust
>> > >> KM> bunnies out of it.
>> > >>
>> > >> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally
>> the CPU
>> > >> runs
>> > >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
>> > >>
>> > >> KM> Hope this helps.
>> > >> KM> -- Keith
>> > >>
>> > >> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up
>> being
>> > >>>> the fan
>> > >>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated.
>> In the
>> > >>>> ohter
>> > >>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Rik Rasmussen
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Best,
>> > >>
>> > >> Yuki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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