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Michael --
Sorry, my fault, I misread what you wrote.
-- Keith
Michael.S.G. wrote:
>
> Keith,
> Yes. Thats what I was saying.
>
> Keith McCombs wrote:
> >
> > Michael --
> > "walking across a synthetic carpet etc., then contacting the
> > components" (before touching the outside metal case) is, in fact, a
> > very easy way to destroy a computer. Been there, done that.
> > -- Keith
> >
> > Michael.S.G. wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry Ara/Ken,
> >> I think this is a non issue. Else we would be having static build up
> >> just from all the FANs already in PC's.
> >> More of a problem would be walking across a synthetic carpet etc then
> >> contacting the components.
> >> ATB
> >> MSG
> >>
> >> Ken Henderson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The same applies when using a vacuum cleaner to suck up dust. It to,
> >> > will create static.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > *From:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>]
> >> > *On Behalf Of *Ara Kaloustian
> >> > *Sent:* Sunday, 17 September 2006 1:31 AM
> >> > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Careful with compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static
> >> > electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Joe Landry" <jelandry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>
> >> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>
> >> > <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>>
> >> > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Yuki:
> >> > >
> >> > > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the
> >> accumulation,
> >> > > rather than
> >> > > risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket
> with a
> >> > > vacuum
> >> > > cleaner or poking around with a
> >> > > toothpick.
> >> > > I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment
> >> and the
> >> > > gas
> >> > > is said to be non ozone depleting.
> >> > > DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best regards
> >> > > JOE
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Yuki Taga" <yukitaga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>
> >> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>
> >> > <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>>
> >> > > To: "Keith McCombs" <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Keith,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
> >> > >> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
> >> > >> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing
> >> off,
> >> > >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
> >> > >>
> >> > >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of
> >> > >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What
> >> > >> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain
> >> over the
> >> > >> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on
> >> > >> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
> >> > >> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for.
> There
> >> > >> are no more curtains, but I can see dust.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's
> always
> >> > >> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
> >> > >> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit
> >> > >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor
> deal.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its
> >> ambient,
> >> > >> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got
> monitoring it
> >> > >> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any
> >> longer. It
> >> > >> gives me board and CPU temps, however.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU
> just go,
> >> > >> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long
> >> > >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been
> >> > >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just
> fails,
> >> > >> that is most likely the seat of the problem.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum
> >> > >> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that
> >> > >> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action
> from it's
> >> > >> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
> >> > >> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
> >> > >> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can
> >> > >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing
> along with
> >> > >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious
> what was
> >> > >> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once
> >> > >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more
> dust in
> >> > >> there.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be
> >> pretty
> >> > >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks all,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Yuki
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a
> >> small
> >> > >> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records
> >> > >> temperatures.
> >> > >> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems
> >> > >> (computer
> >> > >> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
> >> > cleaning the
> >> > >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan
> >> and cpu,
> >> > >> but
> >> > >> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two
> >> years of
> >> > >> dust
> >> > >> KM> bunnies out of it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally
> >> the CPU
> >> > >> runs
> >> > >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> KM> Hope this helps.
> >> > >> KM> -- Keith
> >> > >>
> >> > >> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up
> >> being
> >> > >>>> the fan
> >> > >>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated.
> >> In the
> >> > >>>> ohter
> >> > >>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Rik Rasmussen
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Best,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Yuki
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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