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RE: [amibroker] Re: OT:Two DSL Services



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Gene,
For an alternative to wireless's $250K/tower cost, see digitalpath.net, a
soon to IPO outfit headquartered in Chico, CA and currently deployed in CA
and TX.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: hithere2222 [mailto:hithere2222@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:48 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amibroker] Re: OT:Two DSL Services




Just to chime in on this as I used to be in this business.
Wireless deployment is the most expensive type of deployment out
right now.  Granted the long term revenue stream will net back all of
the expense involved and without having to have a commitment to a
Bell operating companies for backhaul it is well worth the effort and
expense.  The problem is 2 fold with it as it stands currently.
Maximum non-line-of-site deployment is limited to 5 miles from tower
to home.  Maximum line-of-site deployment is limited to 25 miles
(this is on a good day with a clear view of the source and
destination). And deployment cost per tower.  Carriers are spending
in the neighborhood of $250,000 per tower to get the speed and
distance. Just aa bit ouot of the reach of most start-ups.

So when wireless arrives it will be great but until someone ponies up
the money to do it it will never achieve what it can really be.

Verizon offers a good wireless service but it is not fast enouogh yet
to get my attention.  Maybe for others it might work, just not for me.



Hope my thoughts help.
Gene



 --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <wd78@xxxx> wrote:
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Robb
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:05 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: OT:Two DSL Services
>
>
>   wm - as noted in my note, the FCC has approved use of electric
lines for broadband.  See
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/15/technology/15power.html?
>
>   As mentioned, we no longer need it.
>
>   "10 to 100 MB wireless transmission with reception assured by
small cigar-shaped antennae was introduced two years ago; it is,
naturally, in existence nowhere (except a few small private real-
estate developments where the developer is the transmitter and the
owners/lessors are the receivers. Why? Because the technology is too
good - It has a range of 10 to 20 miles,and too cheap - parts cost
about the same, or less than individual home networking devices used
now."
>
>   wm - Oh, I don't know about not needing it.  Once you leave
simple home or limited area-type installations for the "big wide
world" things get very expensive.  Ask the Australians who got it
recently (maybe they have a market in the boonies).  I'll opt for an
electiric line that is competitively priced vis-a-vis DSL, etc.
Anything that is not competitively priced, reflecting $$$ to get
things going, etc., will not fly, imo.
>
>   Maybe we agree about something....but not this.  How could it be
preferable to plug into rusty copper?  when wireless is available
that extends 30 miles (beyond the last power pole...or anywhere
else)  at the same or less money?  Maybe it's a matter of preference.
OK. Let the buyer decide. FCC is not a competent technology Czar, is
it?  Look at dial up. Why should they be permitted to stifle wireless
in favor of rust?  But they are. Otherwise we would have had the 30
mile wireless last year, not this rust belt relic, Dear Mother.
>
>   wm - as noted above the Australians might be interested in the
boonies (non-electified).  However, if a electric wire (does not
rust) goes to your place and it is significantly cheaper than
wireless, wireless is dead.  Electric utilities have the
infrastructure in place and appear able to deliver at a competitive
rate, and the FCC has OK'd it.  So most likely it will fly.  I don't
know the story of FCC and wireless and what problems wireless has in
our airwaves, but based on Australia's experience it will not fly
because of cost (about A$350).  I have no axe to grind and just want
good, economical service, which electric seems to have the potential
to offer.  Only raised this subject to find out if anyone knew the
status and not to debate the merits.  Enuf ced.  We'll see how things
play out.
>
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