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It boils down to the customer equipment is $400 a piece. and the 
compression ratios are still not there to get it up over 96 MB/shared 
on the downstream.  It is not a dedicated type of bandwidth so you 
have to oversell it to calculate the number of supported customers. 

You can average about 300 customers on a tower based on distance and 
population.  It is a matter of economics.  300 x $50 does produces 
enough revenue to justify it.


Gene



--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael Robb" <mlrobb@xxxx> wrote:
> The wireless that was announced two years ago has none of the high 
cost characteristics you mention. It was faster than 20 MB and 
capable of getting to 100 MB, and the cost to perpetuated beyond the 
30 miles was comparable to the consumer cost of reception....which 
was less than what a homeowner now pays for routers and modems. In 
short, there were no high costs.  That is why it is hard to 
understand why this approach is not being undertaken.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: hithere2222 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:47 AM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: OT:Two DSL Services
> 
> 
> 
>   Just to chime in on this as I used to be in this business.
>   Wireless deployment is the most expensive type of deployment out 
>   right now.  Granted the long term revenue stream will net back 
all of 
>   the expense involved and without having to have a commitment to a 
>   Bell operating companies for backhaul it is well worth the effort 
and 
>   expense.  The problem is 2 fold with it as it stands currently.
>   Maximum non-line-of-site deployment is limited to 5 miles from 
tower 
>   to home.  Maximum line-of-site deployment is limited to 25 miles 
>   (this is on a good day with a clear view of the source and 
>   destination). And deployment cost per tower.  Carriers are 
spending 
>   in the neighborhood of $250,000 per tower to get the speed and 
>   distance. Just aa bit ouot of the reach of most start-ups.
> 
>   So when wireless arrives it will be great but until someone 
ponies up 
>   the money to do it it will never achieve what it can really be.
> 
>   Verizon offers a good wireless service but it is not fast enouogh 
yet 
>   to get my attention.  Maybe for others it might work, just not 
for me.
> 
> 
> 
>   Hope my thoughts help.
>   Gene
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wavemechanic" <wd78@xxxx> 
wrote:
>   > 
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Michael Robb 
>   >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:05 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: OT:Two DSL Services
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   wm - as noted in my note, the FCC has approved use of 
electric 
>   lines for broadband.  See 
>   http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/15/technology/15power.html?
>   > 
>   >   As mentioned, we no longer need it.
>   > 
>   >   "10 to 100 MB wireless transmission with reception assured by 
>   small cigar-shaped antennae was introduced two years ago; it is, 
>   naturally, in existence nowhere (except a few small private real-
>   estate developments where the developer is the transmitter and 
the 
>   owners/lessors are the receivers. Why? Because the technology is 
too 
>   good - It has a range of 10 to 20 miles,and too cheap - parts 
cost 
>   about the same, or less than individual home networking devices 
used 
>   now."
>   > 
>   >   wm - Oh, I don't know about not needing it.  Once you leave 
>   simple home or limited area-type installations for the "big wide 
>   world" things get very expensive.  Ask the Australians who got it 
>   recently (maybe they have a market in the boonies).  I'll opt for 
an 
>   electiric line that is competitively priced vis-a-vis DSL, etc.  
>   Anything that is not competitively priced, reflecting $$$ to get 
>   things going, etc., will not fly, imo.
>   > 
>   >   Maybe we agree about something....but not this.  How could it 
be 
>   preferable to plug into rusty copper?  when wireless is available 
>   that extends 30 miles (beyond the last power pole...or anywhere 
>   else)  at the same or less money?  Maybe it's a matter of 
preference. 
>   OK. Let the buyer decide. FCC is not a competent technology Czar, 
is 
>   it?  Look at dial up. Why should they be permitted to stifle 
wireless 
>   in favor of rust?  But they are. Otherwise we would have had the 
30 
>   mile wireless last year, not this rust belt relic, Dear Mother.
>   > 
>   >   wm - as noted above the Australians might be interested in 
the 
>   boonies (non-electified).  However, if a electric wire (does not 
>   rust) goes to your place and it is significantly cheaper than 
>   wireless, wireless is dead.  Electric utilities have the 
>   infrastructure in place and appear able to deliver at a 
competitive 
>   rate, and the FCC has OK'd it.  So most likely it will fly.  I 
don't 
>   know the story of FCC and wireless and what problems wireless has 
in 
>   our airwaves, but based on Australia's experience it will not fly 
>   because of cost (about A$350).  I have no axe to grind and just 
want 
>   good, economical service, which electric seems to have the 
potential 
>   to offer.  Only raised this subject to find out if anyone knew 
the 
>   status and not to debate the merits.  Enuf ced.  We'll see how 
things 
>   play out.
>   > 
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