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On second thoughts, I am abandoning my attempt to come out with a
good PositionScore criteria using PerformanceScore() posted earlier
which uses the equity drawdown of each underlying instrument. Since
the DrawDowns are random and depends on the sequence of trades which
is random in nature, it is not correct in fixing the MDD as the same
as the one got conducting a backtest.
Instead, I am designing my system to withstand a MDD (MaxDrawDown) of
100%. Ideally, I would like to conduct a MCS to verify the
probability that this MaxDrawDown never happens (i.e,. Probability =
0.)
Accordingly, for eg., I get the following for PositionSize (Assuming
MDD = 100%, MaxRisk = 0.1 (Max Risked/Trade = 10%), Initial equity =
$1000, MaxOpenPos optimized to 5 (using UPI), MinShares = 100, No
commisions/slippage, No trade delays),
PositionSize = -100/MaxOpenPos = MaxRisk * Equity/(-MDD * MaxOpenPos)
= 0.1*1000/(-1.0 * 5) = -0.02*1000 = -20 Lots
rgds, Pal
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> A Journalist never reveals his source other than the already known
> (published) ones, but you can be rest assured that it is the best.
>
> I'm not a TC2000 user, though I have used demo versions of it and
> still may have it in my system.
>
> I have played with BOP in the past trying to use it as an indicator
> sytem (futile attempt) but never looked at it from PositionScore
> point of view until I read your post. I will be eagerly awaiting
> your research results based on BOP.
>
> I'm now using the RSW function posted by Greg and tested by Phsst
> which seems to be the excellent one, so far. All my previous
> attempts to find a good PositionScore criteria including
> PerformanceScore() posted earlier which uses the equity drawdown of
> each underlying instrument were futile. Though I think it can be
> perfected using Herman's sumOfEquitiesWL code (if I can find time
to
> do it.) I will use this RSW until you or somebody else comes out
> with a better one (BOP, sumOfEquitiesWL or something else.)
>
> rgds, Pal
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> wrote:
> > Pal, thanks for this (I think :-) ). I initially thought you had
> messed
> > up and copied the same section many times, but upon closer
reading,
> I
> > see each section is slightly different than the last.
> >
> > It is not clear how close this will come to the internal TC2000
> > so-called "proprietary" indicator, nor how much time I might have
> to do
> > comparison tests of all of the variations.
> >
> > Nonetheless, thanks for sharing it. What was the source for this
> > information if I may ask? Also, do you have any personal
experience
> > with it and the variations? Are you a TC2000 user and have thus
> made
> > comparisons? Just fishing for info that might make my research a
> little
> > shorter.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@x...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:10 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open Close
> > FORMULA: BOP_BearOpenClose
> > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price
below
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
price
> > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
price
> > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
opening
> > value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > iif((C>O),0,(O-C)/(H-L))
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power
> > FORMULA: BOP
> > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by assessing
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using a
reduced
> > calculation.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level
using
> a
> > reduced calculation.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the
> price
> > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> closing
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the price
> up
> > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > down from its opening value.
> >
> > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect
> trends
> > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish. Negative
> > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price
> during
> > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the
bulls
> > have been controlling the price.
> >
> > This is the reduced form of the Balance of Power function, which
is
> > derived from the formula presented in the article. It returns the
> > same value as the orignal form Balance of Power function.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (C-O)/(H-L)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power (Original Form)
> > FORMULA: BOP1
> > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by assessing
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using the
> > underlying calculations.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level
using
> > the underlying calculations.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the
> price
> > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> closing
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the price
> up
> > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > down from its opening value.
> >
> > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect
> trends
> > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish. Negative
> > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price
> during
> > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the
bulls
> > have been controlling the price.
> >
> > This is the original form of the Balance of Power function, which
> is
> > presented in the article. It returns the same value as the normal
> > Balance of Power function, which has been derived from this
formula.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > BOP_BullDaily(O,C,H,L) - BOP_BearDaily(O,C,H,L)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Daily
> > FORMULA: BOP_BullDaily
> > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls for a given day by
assessing
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the strength of bulls for a given day by
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls to move the price by
> > examining the high and low prices against the opening and closing
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the price
> up
> > from its opening value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (BOP_BullOpen(O,H,L) + BOP_BullClose(C,H,L) + BOP_BullOpenClose
> > (O,C,H,L))/3
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open Close
> > FORMULA: BOP_BullOpenClose
> > DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price
above
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
price
> > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
price
> > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening
> > value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > iif((C>O),(C-O)/(H-L),0)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Close
> > FORMULA: BOP_BearClose
> > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price down
> > from the high price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
price
> > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
price
> > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
opening
> > value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (C-L)/(H-L)
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Close
> > FORMULA: BOP_BullClose
> > DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price up
> from
> > the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
price
> up
> > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
price
> up
> > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
Bulls
> > are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (C-L)/(H-L)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open
> > FORMULA: BOP_BearOpen
> > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the low price down
from
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price
down
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price
down
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
opening
> > value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (O-L)/(H-L)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open
> > FORMULA: BOP_BullOpen
> > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the high price up from
> the
> > opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price
up
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price
up
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening
> > value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (H-O)/(H-L)
> >
> >
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Daily
> > FORMULA: BOP_BearDaily
> > DESC: Measure the strength of bears for a given day by
assessing
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > NOTES:
> > This function measures the strength of bears for a given day by
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> >
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> >
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bears to move the price by
> > examining the high and low prices against the opening and closing
> > prices for each day. Bears are considered to be pushing the price
> > down from its opening value.
> >
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> effect).
> >
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the Balance
> of
> > Power indicator.
> >
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
and
> > Commodities".
> >
> > (BOP_BearOpen(O,H,L,C) + BOP_BearClose(C,H,L) + BOP_BearOpenClose
> > (O,C,H,L))/3
> >
> >
> > rgds, Pal
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx>
wrote:
> > > Gary/Phsst: now that is interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > VectorVest has a "proprietary" "Relative Strength" indicator
> called
> > RT,
> > > which some on another list have said is approximated by C/Ref
(C,-
> > 65),
> > > along with some weighting scheme. Talk about everyone drinking
> out
> > of
> > > the same cup.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TC2000 has a thing called BOP (Balance of Power), but I have
> never
> > seen
> > > an approximation of it much less a description of what it
> attempts
> > to
> > > do. Nix that, here is something from the TC2k Help files:
> > >
> > > "BOP fits into a category of devices that can be termed "trend
> > quality"
> > > indicators. A variety of methods lead naturally to buy and sell
> > signals.
> > > What BOP tells you is something about the quality of the
> underlying
> > > trend. Not itself a pinpoint timing indicator, BOP will modify
> your
> > > assessment of the vital risk-reward ratio of a trade or
> investment.
> > It
> > > will help you determine whether the supply-demand balance will
be
> in
> > > your favor. It will help you spot changes of character in a
> stock's
> > > action.
> > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gary A. Serkhoshian [mailto:serkhoshian777@x...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:16 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Phsst,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for that suggestion, as I'd never stumbled across it
> > before. QP
> > > has a great explaination in help which I've posted below in
> > addition to
> > > my translation into AFL which just offers the raw relstr
numbers
> > which
> > > is good enough. If anyone wants to beautify the code with the
> > ranking
> > > from 0 to 99, by all means tear it up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Value-added as always Phsst : ). Kind Regards, Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > QRSRAW = ( (C / Ref(C,-62)) * 0.4 ) + ( (Ref(C,-63) / Ref(C,-
> 125))
> > * 0.2
> > > ) + ( (Ref(C,-126) / Ref(C,-188)) * 0.2 ) + ( (Ref(C,-189) /
> > > Ref(C,-251)) * 0.2 );
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quotes Plus Relative Strength Indicator
> > >
> > > The Quotes Plus Relative Strength indicator is calculated for
> each
> > issue
> > > each day, and becomes part of the data you download to your PC.
> The
> > > indicator ranks each issue in the database against every other
> > issue in
> > > the database, based on its performance for the last 12 months.
> > >
> > > Every issue is ranked from 0 to 99 so that its rank is equal to
> the
> > > percentage of issues that it has outperformed over the previous
> 12
> > month
> > > period. A rating of 92, for example, means that the issue has
> > > outperformed 92% of all of the issues in the database.
> > >
> > > The formula is :
> > >
> > > ( Current Close / Close from 62 trading days ago ) * .4
> > >
> > > + ( Close from 63 trading days ago / Close from 125 trading
days
> > ago ) *
> > > .2
> > >
> > > + ( Close from 126 trading days ago / Close from 188 trading
days
> > ago )
> > > * .2
> > >
> > > + ( Close from 189 trading days ago / Close from 251 trading
days
> > ago )
> > > * .2
> > >
> > > This value is sorted for all of the issues, and the top 1% of
> > issues get
> > > a value of 99. The other issues are ranked similarly, down to
the
> > bottom
> > > 1%, which get a value of 0.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Phsst <phsst@xxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > QRS is updated daily and goes as far back as 6/1/1995 in the QP2
> > > database.
> > >
> > > Just a suggestion... set aside whatever preconcieved notions
you
> may
> > > have about this and take the time to research it and do a
little
> due
> > > diligence. You might be glad you did.
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa" <advenosa@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > Thanks, Phsst. I'm a QP2 user also. But all those QP2
> GetExtraData
> > > variables are not updated daily, so I don't think they would be
> > useful
> > > for a short-term trading system like I was talking about. Using
> > > PositionScore over a modest time period, you'd get the same 4
> stocks
> > > all the time, wouldn't you, or at least until they get updated.
> > > Perhaps QRS gets updated weekly, so maybe that wouldn't be as
> bad,
> > but
> > > I think I'd like something that is more reflective of the trade
> > system
> > > duration, in other words, something that I can update daily at
> EOD.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Phsst
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:26 PM
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Al,
> > > >
> > > > My favorite is the QP2 QRS value (GetExtraData("QRS"). The
> QP2
> > QRS
> > > > value is supposed to be a 'knockoff' of the IBD RS ranking
> > score.
> > > >
> > > > I almost always get a significant boost using this ranking
> > figure as
> > > > as the positionscore.
> > > >
> > > > If you do not have QP2, but have any ideas about how to do
> your
> > own
> > > RS
> > > > Rank calculation, I'd be happy to run some comparisons for
> you
> > (or
> > > > anyone else) to measure your calculated RS Rank against
QP2's
> > QRS
> > > rank.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Phsst
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa"
<advenosa@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi, all:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been experimenting with variuos short term trading
> > systems
> > > > lately (average trade durations of about 2.5 days), and I
was
> > > looking
> > > > for ideas on how best to rank a watchlist to get the best
> > candidates
> > > > for portfolio trading a basket of 4 stocks. I was wondering
if
> > > anyone
> > > > would care to share any ideas on how you use the
PositionScore
> > > > function to rank your candidate list (using regular mode,
not
> > > > rotational mode). I've tried combinations of turnover and
> > > volatility,
> > > > but I'd like to try other ideas. I'm not asking anyone to
> give
> > away
> > > > any secrets, and, yes, I am aware of TJ's example in the
help
> > file
> > > > (PositionScore = 100 -RSI());), but I was just looking for
> more
> > > ideas.
> > > > I'm not even sure if this question is too vague or not. If
it
> > is,
> > > I'm
> > > > sure you'll tell me. TIA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Al Venosa
> > > > > advenosa@xxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
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