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rgds, Pal
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bvandyke" <bvandyke@xxxx> wrote:
> Pal,
>
> I'd say your Source.....looks like it's the Trading Solutions
> Function Definition file. Mighty close if not eh :)
>
> Bill
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx>
wrote:
> > A Journalist never reveals his source other than the already
known
> > (published) ones, but you can be rest assured that it is the
> best.
> >
> > I'm not a TC2000 user, though I have used demo versions of it and
> > still may have it in my system.
> >
> > I have played with BOP in the past trying to use it as an
> indicator
> > sytem (futile attempt) but never looked at it from PositionScore
> > point of view until I read your post. I will be eagerly awaiting
> > your research results based on BOP.
> >
> > I'm now using the RSW function posted by Greg and tested by Phsst
> > which seems to be the excellent one, so far. All my previous
> > attempts to find a good PositionScore criteria including
> > PerformanceScore() posted earlier which uses the equity drawdown
> of
> > each underlying instrument were futile. Though I think it can be
> > perfected using Herman's sumOfEquitiesWL code (if I can find time
> to
> > do it.) I will use this RSW until you or somebody else comes out
> > with a better one (BOP, sumOfEquitiesWL or something else.)
> >
> > rgds, Pal
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx>
wrote:
> > > Pal, thanks for this (I think :-) ). I initially thought you
> had
> > messed
> > > up and copied the same section many times, but upon closer
> reading,
> > I
> > > see each section is slightly different than the last.
> > >
> > > It is not clear how close this will come to the internal TC2000
> > > so-called "proprietary" indicator, nor how much time I might
> have
> > to do
> > > comparison tests of all of the variations.
> > >
> > > Nonetheless, thanks for sharing it. What was the source for
this
> > > information if I may ask? Also, do you have any personal
> experience
> > > with it and the variations? Are you a TC2000 user and have
> thus
> > made
> > > comparisons? Just fishing for info that might make my research
> a
> > little
> > > shorter.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@x...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:10 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open Close
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BearOpenClose
> > > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price
> below
> > > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
> price
> > > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
> price
> > > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
> opening
> > > value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > iif((C>O),0,(O-C)/(H-L))
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power
> > > FORMULA: BOP
> > > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by
assessing
> > > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using a
> reduced
> > > calculation.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by
> > > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level
> using
> > a
> > > reduced calculation.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the
> > price
> > > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> > closing
> > > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > up
> > > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the
> > price
> > > down from its opening value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect
> > trends
> > > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish.
> Negative
> > > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price
> > during
> > > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the
> bulls
> > > have been controlling the price.
> > >
> > > This is the reduced form of the Balance of Power function,
which
> is
> > > derived from the formula presented in the article. It returns
> the
> > > same value as the orignal form Balance of Power function.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (C-O)/(H-L)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power (Original Form)
> > > FORMULA: BOP1
> > > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by
assessing
> > > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using the
> > > underlying calculations.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by
> > > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level
> using
> > > the underlying calculations.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the
> > price
> > > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> > closing
> > > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > up
> > > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the
> > price
> > > down from its opening value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect
> > trends
> > > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish.
> Negative
> > > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price
> > during
> > > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the
> bulls
> > > have been controlling the price.
> > >
> > > This is the original form of the Balance of Power function,
> which
> > is
> > > presented in the article. It returns the same value as the
> normal
> > > Balance of Power function, which has been derived from this
> formula.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > BOP_BullDaily(O,C,H,L) - BOP_BearDaily(O,C,H,L)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Daily
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BullDaily
> > > DESC: Measure the strength of bulls for a given day by
> assessing
> > > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the strength of bulls for a given day by
> > > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function rates the ability of bulls to move the price by
> > > examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> closing
> > > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > up
> > > from its opening value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (BOP_BullOpen(O,H,L) + BOP_BullClose(C,H,L) + BOP_BullOpenClose
> > > (O,C,H,L))/3
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open Close
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BullOpenClose
> > > DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price
> above
> > > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
> price
> > > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
> price
> > > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its
opening
> > > value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > iif((C>O),(C-O)/(H-L),0)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Close
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BearClose
> > > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price
> down
> > > from the high price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
> price
> > > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing
> price
> > > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
> opening
> > > value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (C-L)/(H-L)
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Close
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BullClose
> > > DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price up
> > from
> > > the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
> price
> > up
> > > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing
> price
> > up
> > > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> Bulls
> > > are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening
value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (C-L)/(H-L)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BearOpen
> > > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the low price down
> from
> > > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price
> down
> > > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price
> down
> > > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its
> opening
> > > value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (O-L)/(H-L)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BullOpen
> > > DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the high price up
> from
> > the
> > > opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price
> up
> > > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the
day.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price
> up
> > > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the
> day.
> > > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its
opening
> > > value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (H-O)/(H-L)
> > >
> > >
> > > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Daily
> > > FORMULA: BOP_BearDaily
> > > DESC: Measure the strength of bears for a given day by
> assessing
> > > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > > NOTES:
> > > This function measures the strength of bears for a given day by
> > > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > > ------------------
> > > Open The open price of the security for each given day.
> > > Close The close price of the security for each given
day.
> > > High The high price of the security for each given day.
> > > Low The low price of the security for each given day.
> > >
> > > Function Value
> > > ------------------------
> > > This function rates the ability of bears to move the price by
> > > examining the high and low prices against the opening and
> closing
> > > prices for each day. Bears are considered to be pushing the
> price
> > > down from its opening value.
> > >
> > > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large
> > effect).
> > >
> > > Usage
> > > -----------
> > > This function is typically used in the calculation of the
> Balance
> > of
> > > Power indicator.
> > >
> > > Source
> > > ------------
> > > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by
Igor
> > > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks
> and
> > > Commodities".
> > >
> > > (BOP_BearOpen(O,H,L,C) + BOP_BearClose(C,H,L) +
BOP_BearOpenClose
> > > (O,C,H,L))/3
> > >
> > >
> > > rgds, Pal
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > Gary/Phsst: now that is interesting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > VectorVest has a "proprietary" "Relative Strength" indicator
> > called
> > > RT,
> > > > which some on another list have said is approximated by C/Ref
> (C,-
> > > 65),
> > > > along with some weighting scheme. Talk about everyone
> drinking
> > out
> > > of
> > > > the same cup.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TC2000 has a thing called BOP (Balance of Power), but I have
> > never
> > > seen
> > > > an approximation of it much less a description of what it
> > attempts
> > > to
> > > > do. Nix that, here is something from the TC2k Help files:
> > > >
> > > > "BOP fits into a category of devices that can be
termed "trend
> > > quality"
> > > > indicators. A variety of methods lead naturally to buy and
> sell
> > > signals.
> > > > What BOP tells you is something about the quality of the
> > underlying
> > > > trend. Not itself a pinpoint timing indicator, BOP will
modify
> > your
> > > > assessment of the vital risk-reward ratio of a trade or
> > investment.
> > > It
> > > > will help you determine whether the supply-demand balance
will
> be
> > in
> > > > your favor. It will help you spot changes of character in a
> > stock's
> > > > action.
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gary A. Serkhoshian [mailto:serkhoshian777@x...]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:16 PM
> > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Phsst,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that suggestion, as I'd never stumbled across it
> > > before. QP
> > > > has a great explaination in help which I've posted below in
> > > addition to
> > > > my translation into AFL which just offers the raw relstr
> numbers
> > > which
> > > > is good enough. If anyone wants to beautify the code with
the
> > > ranking
> > > > from 0 to 99, by all means tear it up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Value-added as always Phsst : ). Kind Regards, Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > QRSRAW = ( (C / Ref(C,-62)) * 0.4 ) + ( (Ref(C,-63) / Ref(C,-
> > 125))
> > > * 0.2
> > > > ) + ( (Ref(C,-126) / Ref(C,-188)) * 0.2 ) + ( (Ref(C,-189) /
> > > > Ref(C,-251)) * 0.2 );
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quotes Plus Relative Strength Indicator
> > > >
> > > > The Quotes Plus Relative Strength indicator is calculated for
> > each
> > > issue
> > > > each day, and becomes part of the data you download to your
> PC.
> > The
> > > > indicator ranks each issue in the database against every
other
> > > issue in
> > > > the database, based on its performance for the last 12 months.
> > > >
> > > > Every issue is ranked from 0 to 99 so that its rank is equal
> to
> > the
> > > > percentage of issues that it has outperformed over the
> previous
> > 12
> > > month
> > > > period. A rating of 92, for example, means that the issue has
> > > > outperformed 92% of all of the issues in the database.
> > > >
> > > > The formula is :
> > > >
> > > > ( Current Close / Close from 62 trading days ago ) * .4
> > > >
> > > > + ( Close from 63 trading days ago / Close from 125 trading
> days
> > > ago ) *
> > > > .2
> > > >
> > > > + ( Close from 126 trading days ago / Close from 188 trading
> days
> > > ago )
> > > > * .2
> > > >
> > > > + ( Close from 189 trading days ago / Close from 251 trading
> days
> > > ago )
> > > > * .2
> > > >
> > > > This value is sorted for all of the issues, and the top 1% of
> > > issues get
> > > > a value of 99. The other issues are ranked similarly, down to
> the
> > > bottom
> > > > 1%, which get a value of 0.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phsst <phsst@xxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > QRS is updated daily and goes as far back as 6/1/1995 in the
> QP2
> > > > database.
> > > >
> > > > Just a suggestion... set aside whatever preconcieved notions
> you
> > may
> > > > have about this and take the time to research it and do a
> little
> > due
> > > > diligence. You might be glad you did.
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa" <advenosa@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks, Phsst. I'm a QP2 user also. But all those QP2
> > GetExtraData
> > > > variables are not updated daily, so I don't think they would
> be
> > > useful
> > > > for a short-term trading system like I was talking about.
Using
> > > > PositionScore over a modest time period, you'd get the same 4
> > stocks
> > > > all the time, wouldn't you, or at least until they get
updated.
> > > > Perhaps QRS gets updated weekly, so maybe that wouldn't be as
> > bad,
> > > but
> > > > I think I'd like something that is more reflective of the
> trade
> > > system
> > > > duration, in other words, something that I can update daily
at
> > EOD.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Phsst
> > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Al,
> > > > >
> > > > > My favorite is the QP2 QRS value (GetExtraData("QRS").
The
> > QP2
> > > QRS
> > > > > value is supposed to be a 'knockoff' of the IBD RS
ranking
> > > score.
> > > > >
> > > > > I almost always get a significant boost using this
ranking
> > > figure as
> > > > > as the positionscore.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do not have QP2, but have any ideas about how to
do
> > your
> > > own
> > > > RS
> > > > > Rank calculation, I'd be happy to run some comparisons
for
> > you
> > > (or
> > > > > anyone else) to measure your calculated RS Rank against
> QP2's
> > > QRS
> > > > rank.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Phsst
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa"
> <advenosa@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, all:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been experimenting with variuos short term trading
> > > systems
> > > > > lately (average trade durations of about 2.5 days), and I
> was
> > > > looking
> > > > > for ideas on how best to rank a watchlist to get the best
> > > candidates
> > > > > for portfolio trading a basket of 4 stocks. I was
> wondering if
> > > > anyone
> > > > > would care to share any ideas on how you use the
> PositionScore
> > > > > function to rank your candidate list (using regular mode,
> not
> > > > > rotational mode). I've tried combinations of turnover and
> > > > volatility,
> > > > > but I'd like to try other ideas. I'm not asking anyone to
> > give
> > > away
> > > > > any secrets, and, yes, I am aware of TJ's example in the
> help
> > > file
> > > > > (PositionScore = 100 -RSI());), but I was just looking
for
> > more
> > > > ideas.
> > > > > I'm not even sure if this question is too vague or not.
If
> it
> > > is,
> > > > I'm
> > > > > sure you'll tell me. TIA.
> > > > > >
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