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Pal,

I'd say your Source.....looks like it's the Trading Solutions 
Function Definition file.  Mighty close if not eh :)

Bill

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "palsanand" <palsanand@xxxx> wrote:
> A Journalist never reveals his source other than the already known 
> (published) ones, but you can be rest assured that it is the 
best.  
> 
> I'm not a TC2000 user, though I have used demo versions of it and 
> still may have it in my system.  
> 
> I have played with BOP in the past trying to use it as an 
indicator 
> sytem (futile attempt) but never looked at it from PositionScore 
> point of view until I read your post.  I will be eagerly awaiting 
> your research results based on BOP.
> 
> I'm now using the RSW function posted by Greg and tested by Phsst 
> which seems to be the excellent one, so far.  All my previous 
> attempts to find a good PositionScore criteria including 
> PerformanceScore() posted earlier which uses the equity drawdown 
of 
> each underlying instrument were futile.  Though I think it can be 
> perfected using Herman's sumOfEquitiesWL code (if I can find time 
to 
> do it.)  I will use this RSW until you or somebody else comes out 
> with a better one (BOP,  sumOfEquitiesWL or something else.)
> 
> rgds, Pal
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> wrote:
> > Pal, thanks for this (I think :-) ).  I initially thought you 
had 
> messed
> > up and copied the same section many times, but upon closer 
reading, 
> I
> > see each section is slightly different than the last.
> > 
> > It is not clear how close this will come to the internal TC2000
> > so-called "proprietary" indicator, nor how much time I might 
have 
> to do
> > comparison tests of all of the variations.
> > 
> > Nonetheless, thanks for sharing it.  What was the source for this
> > information if I may ask?  Also, do you have any personal 
experience
> > with it and the variations?   Are you a TC2000 user and have 
thus 
> made
> > comparisons?  Just fishing for info that might make my research 
a 
> little
> > shorter.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: palsanand [mailto:palsanand@x...] 
> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:10 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open Close
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BearOpenClose
> >    DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price 
below 
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing 
price 
> > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing 
price 
> > below the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day. 
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its 
opening 
> > value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > iif((C>O),0,(O-C)/(H-L))
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power
> >    FORMULA: BOP
> >    DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by assessing 
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using a 
reduced 
> > calculation.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by 
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level 
using 
> a 
> > reduced calculation.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the 
> price 
> > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and 
> closing 
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the 
price 
> up 
> > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the 
> price 
> > down from its opening value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect 
> trends 
> > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish. 
Negative 
> > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price 
> during 
> > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the 
bulls 
> > have been controlling the price.
> > 
> > This is the reduced form of the Balance of Power function, which 
is 
> > derived from the formula presented in the article. It returns 
the 
> > same value as the orignal form Balance of Power function.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (C-O)/(H-L)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: Balance Of Power (Original Form)
> >    FORMULA: BOP1
> >    DESC: Measure the strength of bulls versus bears by assessing 
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level using the 
> > underlying calculations.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the strength of bulls versus bears by 
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level 
using 
> > the underlying calculations.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls and bears to move the 
> price 
> > by examining the high and low prices against the opening and 
> closing 
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the 
price 
> up 
> > from its opening value. Bears are considered to be pushing the 
> price 
> > down from its opening value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between -1 (bearish) and 1 (bullish).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in a moving average to detect 
> trends 
> > in whether price movements have been bearish or bullish. 
Negative 
> > values indicate that the bears have been controlling the price 
> during 
> > the period of the average. Positiive values indicate that the 
bulls 
> > have been controlling the price.
> > 
> > This is the original form of the Balance of Power function, 
which 
> is 
> > presented in the article. It returns the same value as the 
normal 
> > Balance of Power function, which has been derived from this 
formula.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > BOP_BullDaily(O,C,H,L) - BOP_BearDaily(O,C,H,L)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Daily
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BullDaily
> >    DESC: Measure the strength of bulls for a given day by 
assessing 
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the strength of bulls for a given day by 
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bulls to move the price by 
> > examining the high and low prices against the opening and 
closing 
> > prices for each day. Bulls are considered to be pushing the 
price 
> up 
> > from its opening value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (BOP_BullOpen(O,H,L) + BOP_BullClose(C,H,L) + BOP_BullOpenClose
> > (O,C,H,L))/3
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open Close
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BullOpenClose
> >    DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price 
above 
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing 
price 
> > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing 
price 
> > above the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day. 
> > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening 
> > value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > iif((C>O),(C-O)/(H-L),0)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Close
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BearClose
> >    DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the closing price 
down 
> > from the high price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing 
price 
> > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the 
day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the closing 
price 
> > down from the high price relative to the trading range for the 
day. 
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its 
opening 
> > value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (C-L)/(H-L)
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Close
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BullClose
> >    DESC: Measure the bulls ability to move the closing price up 
> from 
> > the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing 
price 
> up 
> > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bulls ability to move the closing 
price 
> up 
> > from the low price relative to the trading range for the day. 
Bulls 
> > are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (C-L)/(H-L)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Based On Open
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BearOpen
> >    DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the low price down 
from 
> > the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price 
down 
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the low price 
down 
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day. 
> > Bears are considered to be pushing the price down from its 
opening 
> > value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (O-L)/(H-L)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bulls Reward Based On Open
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BullOpen
> >    DESC: Measure the bears ability to move the high price up 
from 
> the 
> > opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price 
up 
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the day.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function measures the bears ability to move the high price 
up 
> > from the opening price relative to the trading range for the 
day. 
> > Bulls are considered to be pushing the price up from its opening 
> > value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (H-O)/(H-L)
> > 
> > 
> > FUNCTION: BOP: Bears Reward Daily
> >    FORMULA: BOP_BearDaily
> >    DESC: Measure the strength of bears for a given day by 
assessing 
> > their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> >    NOTES: 
> > This function measures the strength of bears for a given day by 
> > assessing their ability to push the price to an extreme level.
> > 
> > Parameters
> > ------------------
> > Open         The open price of the security for each given day.
> > Close         The close price of the security for each given day.
> > High          The high price of the security for each given day.
> > Low           The low price of the security for each given day.
> > 
> > Function Value
> > ------------------------
> > This function rates the ability of bears to move the price by 
> > examining the high and low prices against the opening and 
closing 
> > prices for each day. Bears are considered to be pushing the 
price 
> > down from its opening value.
> > 
> > The function value varies between 0 (no effect) and 1 (large 
> effect).
> > 
> > Usage
> > -----------
> > This function is typically used in the calculation of the 
Balance 
> of 
> > Power indicator.
> > 
> > Source
> > ------------
> > This function is based on the article "Balance of Power" by Igor 
> > Livshin in the July 2001 issue of "Technical Analysis of Stocks 
and 
> > Commodities".
> > 
> > (BOP_BearOpen(O,H,L,C) + BOP_BearClose(C,H,L) + BOP_BearOpenClose
> > (O,C,H,L))/3
> > 
> > 
> > rgds, Pal
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" <closeks@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > Gary/Phsst:  now that is interesting.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > VectorVest has a "proprietary" "Relative Strength" indicator 
> called 
> > RT,
> > > which some on another list have said is approximated by C/Ref
(C,-
> > 65),
> > > along with some weighting scheme.  Talk about everyone 
drinking 
> out 
> > of
> > > the same cup.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > TC2000 has a thing called BOP (Balance of Power), but I have 
> never 
> > seen
> > > an approximation of it much less a description of what it 
> attempts 
> > to
> > > do. Nix that, here is something from the TC2k Help files:
> > > 
> > > "BOP fits into a category of devices that can be termed "trend 
> > quality"
> > > indicators. A variety of methods lead naturally to buy and 
sell 
> > signals.
> > > What BOP tells you is something about the quality of the 
> underlying
> > > trend. Not itself a pinpoint timing indicator, BOP will modify 
> your
> > > assessment of the vital risk-reward ratio of a trade or 
> investment. 
> > It
> > > will help you determine whether the supply-demand balance will 
be 
> in
> > > your favor. It will help you spot changes of character in a 
> stock's
> > > action.
> > > 
> > > "
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gary A. Serkhoshian [mailto:serkhoshian777@x...] 
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:16 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Hi Phsst,
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Thanks for that suggestion, as I'd never stumbled across it 
> > before.  QP
> > > has a great explaination in help which I've posted below in 
> > addition to
> > > my translation into AFL which just offers the raw relstr 
numbers 
> > which
> > > is good enough.  If anyone wants to beautify the code with the 
> > ranking
> > > from 0 to 99, by all means tear it up.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Value-added as always Phsst : ).  Kind Regards, Gary
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > QRSRAW = ( (C / Ref(C,-62)) * 0.4 ) + ( (Ref(C,-63) / Ref(C,-
> 125)) 
> > * 0.2
> > > ) + ( (Ref(C,-126) / Ref(C,-188)) * 0.2 ) + ( (Ref(C,-189) /
> > > Ref(C,-251)) * 0.2 );
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Quotes Plus Relative Strength Indicator
> > > 
> > > The Quotes Plus Relative Strength indicator is calculated for 
> each 
> > issue
> > > each day, and becomes part of the data you download to your 
PC. 
> The
> > > indicator ranks each issue in the database against every other 
> > issue in
> > > the database, based on its performance for the last 12 months.
> > > 
> > > Every issue is ranked from 0 to 99 so that its rank is equal 
to 
> the
> > > percentage of issues that it has outperformed over the 
previous 
> 12 
> > month
> > > period. A rating of 92, for example, means that the issue has
> > > outperformed 92% of all of the issues in the database.
> > > 
> > > The formula is :
> > > 
> > > ( Current Close / Close from 62 trading days ago ) * .4
> > > 
> > > + ( Close from 63 trading days ago / Close from 125 trading 
days 
> > ago ) *
> > > .2
> > > 
> > > + ( Close from 126 trading days ago / Close from 188 trading 
days 
> > ago )
> > > * .2
> > > 
> > > + ( Close from 189 trading days ago / Close from 251 trading 
days 
> > ago )
> > > * .2
> > > 
> > > This value is sorted for all of the issues, and the top 1% of 
> > issues get
> > > a value of 99. The other issues are ranked similarly, down to 
the 
> > bottom
> > > 1%, which get a value of 0. 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Phsst <phsst@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > QRS is updated daily and goes as far back as 6/1/1995 in the 
QP2
> > > database.
> > > 
> > > Just a suggestion... set aside whatever preconcieved notions 
you 
> may
> > > have about this and take the time to research it and do a 
little 
> due
> > > diligence. You might be glad you did. 
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa" <advenosa@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > > > Thanks, Phsst. I'm a QP2 user also. But all those QP2 
> GetExtraData
> > > variables are not updated daily, so I don't think they would 
be 
> > useful
> > > for a short-term trading system like I was talking about. Using
> > > PositionScore over a modest time period, you'd get the same 4 
> stocks
> > > all the time, wouldn't you, or at least until they get updated.
> > > Perhaps QRS gets updated weekly, so maybe that wouldn't be as 
> bad, 
> > but
> > > I think I'd like something that is more reflective of the 
trade 
> > system
> > > duration, in other words, something that I can update daily at 
> EOD. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Phsst 
> > > >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > >   Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:26 PM
> > > >   Subject: [amibroker] Re: PositionScore Ideas
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   Al,
> > > > 
> > > >   My favorite is the QP2 QRS value (GetExtraData("QRS"). The 
> QP2 
> > QRS
> > > >   value is supposed to be a 'knockoff' of the IBD RS ranking 
> > score.
> > > > 
> > > >   I almost always get a significant boost using this ranking 
> > figure as
> > > >   as the positionscore.
> > > > 
> > > >   If you do not have QP2, but have any ideas about how to do 
> your 
> > own
> > > RS
> > > >   Rank calculation, I'd be happy to run some comparisons for 
> you 
> > (or
> > > >   anyone else) to measure your calculated RS Rank against 
QP2's 
> > QRS
> > > rank.
> > > > 
> > > >   Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >   Phsst
> > > >   --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Al Venosa" 
<advenosa@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > >   > Hi, all:
> > > >   > 
> > > >   > I've been experimenting with variuos short term trading 
> > systems
> > > >   lately (average trade durations of about 2.5 days), and I 
was
> > > looking
> > > >   for ideas on how best to rank a watchlist to get the best 
> > candidates
> > > >   for portfolio trading a basket of 4 stocks. I was 
wondering if
> > > anyone
> > > >   would care to share any ideas on how you use the 
PositionScore
> > > >   function to rank your candidate list (using regular mode, 
not
> > > >   rotational mode). I've tried combinations of turnover and
> > > volatility,
> > > >   but I'd like to try other ideas. I'm not asking anyone to 
> give 
> > away
> > > >   any secrets, and, yes, I am aware of TJ's example in the 
help 
> > file
> > > >   (PositionScore = 100 -RSI());), but I was just looking for 
> more
> > > ideas.
> > > >   I'm not even sure if this question is too vague or not. If 
it 
> > is,
> > > I'm
> > > >   sure you'll tell me. TIA.
> > > >   > 
> > > >   > Al Venosa
> > > >   > advenosa@xxxx
> > > >   > 
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