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Thanks 
Ken!  I can always count on you to cover my 
backside! 
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Oh, 
and I didn't realize that you went insane AFTER the testing of Rx.... I was 
thinking it was BEFORE!  8-)
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  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ken Close 
  [mailto:closeks@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:22 
  AMTo: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [amibroker] A 
  Way to Handle -- STOP THE FLAME WARS NOW !!!!
  
  <SPAN 
  >OH, No.  You 
  don&#8217;t want <SPAN 
  >dingo<FONT 
  face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  >!!  Dingo and I 
  go way back and trust me, you don&#8217;t want him for a referee.    
  (Before any of you think this was a flame, understand that Dingo and I have a 
  special relationship.  I beta tested his Rx before I went completely 
  insane.)   <FONT face=Wingdings color=navy 
  size=2><SPAN 
  >J<FONT 
  face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  > <big 
  grin>   <lots of hyperbole here> <No 
  flame>
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Seriously.  
  DELETE KEY DELETE KEY DELETE KEY DELETE KEY DELETE KEY.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Did I mention you 
  could and should use the DELETE KEY.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Think about it this 
  way---if emotion forces you to respond to a seeming flame attack rather than 
  calmly hitting the delete key, then what does that say about your emotional 
  response when you are trading real money (significant 6 figure stuff) and the 
  trade moves against you.  Think about it.
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >Ken
  <SPAN 
  > 
  <SPAN 
  >-----Original 
  Message-----From: Gary A. 
  Serkhoshian [mailto:serkhoshian777@xxxxxxxxx] <SPAN 
  >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:10 
  AMTo: 
  amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  >Subject: Re: [amibroker] STOP THE FLAME 
  WARS NOW !!!!
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >Tomasz,
  
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >I appreciate your response, but I really don't think 
  your method is working.  People have been sniping at each other for the 
  past weeks, and even some of the more upstanding members of our board have 
  been dragged in.  Consequently, the quality of the board has suffered as 
  many have pointed out in posts, yet the only comment I've read from you on the 
  board was to Fred saying it wasn't his place to tell people to "go 
  away".
  
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >We all have bad days which we bring into posts.  
  That's okay.  I'm just asking you to step in and break it up when it 
  happens.  Somebody gotta moderate the masses, but I don't think "voting" 
  members off the board a la "Survivor" is a good idea.
  
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >We're all adults.  So, when asked nicely to stop 
  acting childish results in more bickering from the member in question, then 
  you should given them the axe.  Simple as that.
  
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >By the way, I'm not complaining about Pal 
  specifically.  A lot of people have been sniping at him as much as he's 
  been sniping them.  That's why you need to step in and referee or 
  assign someone to do that.  I nominate Dingo : )
  
  <SPAN 
  > 
  
  <SPAN 
  >Warmest,
  
  <SPAN 
  >Gary
  
  <SPAN 
  ><SPAN 
  >Tomasz Janeczko 
  <amibroker@xxxxxx> wrote:
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  >
    
    <SPAN 
    >Hello,
    
    <SPAN 
    > 
    
    <SPAN 
    >I expressed it several times that flame wars of any 
    kind will not be tolerated here.
    
    <SPAN 
    >As written in Group FAQ: <A 
    href="">http://www.egroups.com/files/amibroker/groupfaq.html
    
    <SPAN 
    > 
    
    <SPAN 
    >What are the guidelines for 
    posting? 
    
      <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=red 
      size=2>Subscribers that do not 
      use standard list etiquette may be removed from the list if a subscriber 
      vote indicates that this is what the list wants 
      
    
    <SPAN 
    > 
    
    <SPAN 
    >So if I receive 5 more complaints about Pal or 
    anyone else I may be forced to remove given person, 
    or
    
    <SPAN 
    >switch him/her into "moderated" 
    status.
    
    <SPAN 
    > 
    
    <SPAN 
    >Best regards,Tomasz 
    Janeczkoamibroker.com
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    >
      
      <SPAN 
      >----- Original Message ----- 
      
      
      <FONT face=Arial 
      size=2><SPAN 
      >From:<FONT 
      face=Arial size=2> <A 
      title=serkhoshian777@xxxxxxxxx href="">Gary 
      A. Serkhoshian 
      
      <SPAN 
      >To:<FONT 
      face=Arial size=2> <A 
      title=amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      
      <SPAN 
      >Sent:<FONT 
      face=Arial size=2> 
      Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:53 PM
      
      <SPAN 
      >Subject:<FONT 
      face=Arial size=2> 
      [amibroker] STOP THE FLAME WARS NOW !!!!
      
      <SPAN 
      > 
      
      <SPAN 
      >The e-mail below is nothing more than inflamatory, 
      and Pal you are smart enough to know that.
      
      <SPAN 
      > 
      
      <SPAN 
      >TJ, you have got to step in or assign someone this 
      duty NOW or else this board will degenerate into the patheticly 
      useless TradeStation list.
      
      <SPAN 
      > 
      
      <SPAN 
      >Respectfully,
      
      <SPAN 
      >Gary<SPAN 
      >palsanand <<A 
      href="">palsanand@xxxxxxxxx> 
      wrote:
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      >
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        >Hi Mark,<FONT 
        face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN 
        ><FONT 
        face="Courier New">You are magnanimous and indomitable.  You are 
        like my big brother, so is 
        Steve.  You both have superegos and it is unfortunate that you 
        both could not reconcile 
        your differences yet.  I am the loser and I 
        suspect so are 
        others.  You must measure what you might gain by what 
        you might 
        lose...rgds, 
        Pal--- In 
        amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "quanttrader714" <FONT 
        face="Courier New"><quanttrader714@xxxx> 
        wrote:> It's late and 
        I've had too much scotch, so one very quick 
        example> which I'll 
        explain the basics of but would like to have someone 
        else> please take a stab 
        at interpreting.> 
        > To recap the 
        Robustness Criteria, Condensed Version 1-5:<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> <FONT 
        face="Courier New">> 1. Test on small, mid & large cap stocks in 
        bull, bear & sideways<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> markets.  <FONT 
        face="Courier New">> 2. Evaluate performance on top 20% most actively 
        traded small, mid &> 
        large cap stocks.> 3. 
        Graph and evaluate system performance consistency 
        (%profit/trade> and % 
        profit/bar) on select stocks.<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> 4. Perform simulation to estimate probability of 
        profit in 10 trades> 
        (for select stocks).> 5. 
        Perform simulation to estimate future drawdown (for select 
        <FONT 
        face="Courier New">stocks).<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> <FONT 
        face="Courier New">> For this example I picked a stock, any 
        stock.  I think everyone gets<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> what I mean by criteria 1 and 2 (whether they 
        agree or not), correct> 
        me if I'm wrong.  I've posted the output of criteria 3-5 in 
        the> example folder in 
        the photos section.  Criterion 3 output is photos 
        1<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> and 2, criterion 4 output is photos 3 and 4, and 
        criterion 5 output <FONT 
        face="Courier New">is> 
        photos 5 and 6.  I think the criterion 3 graphs are self 
        <FONT 
        face="Courier New">explanatory.<FONT 
        face="Courier New">>  On criterion 4, forget how it's calculated 
        for now.  It estimates <FONT 
        face="Courier New">the> 
        probability of profit (and how much) at the end of 10 trades.  Unit 
        of<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> measure is % of starting equity.  Looking 
        at the histogram, the> 
        highest bin (the mode of the distribution) is 19.16 -- 29.63 
        which> means approx 
        15.5% of the time (y axis) the profit at the end of 
        10> trades fell in this 
        bin, between 19.16% and 29.63% of initial <FONT 
        face="Courier New">equity.<FONT 
        face="Courier New">>  The cumulative distribution graph is the 
        histogram in cumulative <FONT 
        face="Courier New">> form and shows the likelihood that a result 
        falls below the value on<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> the x axis.  For example, 20% of the 
        simulations (of the sum of 10<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> trades) lost money so you can *estimate* there's 
        an 80% chance <FONT 
        face="Courier New">you'll<FONT 
        face="Courier New">> be profitable after 10 trades with this.  
        Same unit of measure for <FONT 
        face="Courier New">max> 
        dd and those graphs are read the same way.  P.S. Each simulation 
        was> 1000 runs, so the 
        graphs of criterion 3 show one actual pass 
        through> the data by AB, 
        while the others depict the collective results of 
        <FONT 
        face="Courier New">1000> 
        simulated runs (and include my adjustment 
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