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Bob:
 
You have a thankless job.  No matter what you do it will offend someone.  I suggest that you use your best judgment as to what is right.  Verbal abuse of contributors is what has caused most of us from posting like we used to.  There are a lot of things we would rather do than take flack from someone that has no idea what is really going on.  It is not commercial content which is usually reference to their web site, like I have done, but the constant harping and criticism that a few have been constantly doing.  No one likes abuse, not even you.  So take the abuse with a grain of salt and continue to do what you think is right.
 
Hope that the week end allows you to receive some peace.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsKC
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped / ?

At 04:45 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:

This is the first list I joined and came across some very generous people here who set me on the on the path of learning whatever I know of trading. While some of them are still here , the list is not even an iota  of what it was. Part of the credit for the list's demise rests squarely on [a]  those who tried to abuse it for commercial purposes and [b] those who could not appreciate the merit of the posts of the members who were also vendors of products/services abd disrespected such members. Part of the credit I am afraid goes to absolute lack of leadership in those who have been entrusted with minding this group. The wealth of knowledge that still exists in the senior membership of this list has been allowed to go waste. 

Strong accusations, now let's see some proof. 

First, you state that a major problem with the list is those people who tried to exploit it for commercial purposes and then, immediately state that the next thing wrong with it is that members were controlled with regard to posting commercial content.  You finally give a large measure of credit for the problems to the management but offer no information with regard to what mistakes that management made or what you suggest to make the list better.  All I was able to glean from your mail is that you want less commercialism but you want the members to be able to post commercial information and management has failed somehow with something .. Do I sound a little angry?  I hope so.  My paycheck for running this list isn't so very large and I have a lot of experience running lists.  I love ideas.  I love criticism.  I love suggestions for improvement.  What I hate is complaints without suggestions of how to improve things.  When people complained about my strict policies on advertising, I loosened it up.  When they complained again about it, I, for all practical purposes, removed it.  Now you say part of the problem is the commercial content rules.  What rules?  How do you want these rules, (whatever they are), changed?  You then go on to say that the rest of the problem is my management. 

Well, I reviewed my management over the past two years.  It has consisted of changing the rules on advertising here on 3 occasions to conform to what membership seem to want.  It consisted of the removal of 2 members and a few minor reminders about policy to the list.  Would you describe that as too much management or too little management or just bad management?  Please define how you would have done it better and offer suggestions for how it can be done better now. 

Bob


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Jeffrey Harteam <jharteam@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
This is really bad.  Somebody just got removed for posting a nice article for me to read.!!!  BobKC , your rules I?m sorry to say are very wrong.  No wonder, no one wants to post anything here ever again.  Just ridiculous!!.

 
Have a good one
Jeff Harteam
Hong Kong

 
-----Original Message-----
From: realtraders@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:realtraders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Pardo at Mindspring
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:13 AM
To: realtraders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped / ?

 
Is the reason for the ban on these articles because of the potential for useless or agenda bearing content?

 
Regards,

 
Bob

 
From: realtraders@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:realtraders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BobsKC
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:54 PM
To: realtraders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped

 
I too was interested in the article and I read it.  I would have also read it had there been a link to it posted rather than embedding it.

Bob

At 05:35 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote:
Having worked with John many years ago at Salamon Brothers, I was very interested in the story.

 
I personally have no objection to good quality material like this being posted to the group.

 
Regards,

 
Bob Pardo

 
From: realtraders@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:realtraders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:55 PM
To: realtraders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped

 
Can someone tell me what the difference is between placing a LINK into the email message
versus the embedded FULL TEXT ?

 
No difference IMHO except that the embedded technique is more convenient.

 


From: realtraders@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:realtraders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clyde Lee(swb)
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:21 PM
To: realtraders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again
Bob,
Even though you don't like the idea it seems
that in the short run you may have to go to
monitoring messages since your sense of
the behavior of members does not seem to
be correct ! ! !

 
Clyde

 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Deosaran Bisnath
To: realtraders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again


 

A Decade Later,




John Meriwether




Must Scramble Again




 
LTCM Founder Has Tough Time
Stemming Losses at New Funds;
A Withdrawal Deadline Nears
By JENNY STRASBURG



 


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