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[a] It has been accepted policy of the group now that members who troll the list be booted out. That is as it should be, no complaints.
[b] Just because a member is a commercial vendor of a product or service ,that does not mean he/she is of doubtful integrity and their posts need to be viewed on merit. If such a member posts a link to a website offering their services/products that is acceptable. Again no complaints on this score as well.
[c] Your recent actions border on selective censorship.You want an example, here goes. Tim Morge gives veiled hints of impending trouble at a bank without revealing a name and then clams up, how would you define that? Then he takes umbrage to an innocuos remark and decides to leave the list, the list is flooded with posts beseaching himto not leave. Where is the moderator stepping in and saying a rumour is a rumour and nothing else? On the very same principle the posting of the opinion of someone from the outside
should be permissible. If Hussman has an agenda how do you know Tim Morge does not? I have benefited from Tim's posts immensely, I would be ungrateful if I did not admit that. But if I dont want to be a sycophant I have to point out the double standards being practiced here.
Were you looking for a paycheck when you signed on? You are angry? Well so am I with this hypocrisy. If Tim is a man of credibiity do you have conclusive proof that Hussman is not? If on the basis of the considered opinion of the majority you set a rule that links are fine articles are not, is the posting of an article such a big sin that you boot a member out?
Pity is that the leading lights of the group are silent about this. Anyway I am done on the subject.
R
BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: At 04:45 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:
This is the first list I joined and came across some very generous people here who set me on the on the path of learning whatever I know of trading. While some of them are still here , the list is not even an iota of what it was. Part of the credit for the list's demise rests squarely on [a] those who tried to abuse it for commercial purposes and [b] those who could not appreciate the merit of the posts of the members who were also vendors of products/services abd disrespected such members. Part of the credit I am afraid goes to absolute lack of leadership in those who have been entrusted with minding this group. The wealth of knowledge that still exists in the senior membership of this list has been allowed to go waste.
Strong accusations, now let's see some proof.
First, you state that a major problem with the list is those people who tried to exploit it for commercial
purposes and then, immediately state that the next thing wrong with it is that members were controlled with regard to posting commercial content. You finally give a large measure of credit for the problems to the management but offer no information with regard to what mistakes that management made or what you suggest to make the list better. All I was able to glean from your mail is that you want less commercialism but you want the members to be able to post commercial information and management has failed somehow with something .. Do I sound a little angry? I hope so. My paycheck for running this list isn't so very large and I have a lot of experience running lists. I love ideas. I love criticism. I love suggestions for improvement. What I hate is complaints without suggestions of how to improve things. When people complained about my strict policies on advertising, I loosened it up. When they complained again
about it, I, for all practical purposes, removed it. Now you say part of the problem is the commercial content rules. What rules? How do you want these rules, (whatever they are), changed? You then go on to say that the rest of the problem is my management.
Well, I reviewed my management over the past two years. It has consisted of changing the rules on advertising here on 3 occasions to conform to what membership seem to want. It consisted of the removal of 2 members and a few minor reminders about policy to the list. Would you describe that as too much management or too little management or just bad management? Please define how you would have done it better and offer suggestions for how it can be done better now.
Bob
R
Jeffrey Harteam <jharteam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
- This is really bad. Somebody just got removed for posting a nice article for me to read.!!! BobKC , your rules I?m sorry to say are very wrong. No wonder, no one wants to post anything here ever again. Just ridiculous!!.
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- Have a good one
- Jeff Harteam
- Hong Kong
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- -----Original Message-----
- From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Pardo at Mindspring
- Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:13 AM
- To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped / ?
-
- Is the reason for the ban on these articles because of the potential for useless or agenda bearing content?
-
- Regards,
-
- Bob
-
- From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BobsKC
- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:54 PM
- To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped
-
- I too was interested in the article and I read it. I would have also read it had there been a link to it posted rather than embedding it.
- Bob
- At 05:35 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote:
- Having worked with John many years ago at Salamon Brothers, I was very interested in the story.
-
- I personally have no objection to good quality material like this being posted to the group.
-
- Regards,
-
- Bob Pardo
-
- From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:55 PM
- To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again - member dropped
-
- Can someone tell me what the difference is between placing a LINK into the email message
- versus the embedded FULL TEXT ?
-
- No difference IMHO except that the embedded technique is more convenient.
-
-
- From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clyde Lee(swb)
- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:21 PM
- To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again
- Bob,
- Even though you don't like the idea it seems
- that in the short run you may have to go to
- monitoring messages since your sense of
- the behavior of members does not seem to
- be correct ! ! !
-
- Clyde
-
-
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Deosaran Bisnath
- To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:50 PM
- Subject: [RT] Not merry for Meriwether - John Meriwether Must Scramble Again
-
A Decade Later,
John Meriwether
Must Scramble Again
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- LTCM Founder Has Tough Time
- Stemming Losses at New Funds;
- A Withdrawal Deadline Nears
- By JENNY STRASBURG
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