Bob:
I think there is a lot of room between
zero tolerance and unrestricted advertising. The first thing I said was
that I support the general prohibition against advertising. What I would
be for would be inclusion of commercial information relevant to the context of
the purpose of Real Traders. It may take a little more subjective
decision making on the part of moderators, as to what is advertising and what
is contextual sharing; but I am willing to let the moderators decide.
I have not posted much to Real Traders in
recent years, so perhaps my opinion does not hold much weight, but mixing
things up a little bit now and then goes a long way towards keeping the group
invigorated and interesting.
Regards,
John J. Lothian
From:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BobsKC
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005
8:59 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RT] Re: Advertising
I am in favor of invigorating the list as much as you are John. I
will do anything the membership wants to do but it will take some
convincing to cause me to believe that a majority of our members want to see
any type of advertising on this list or that the list would be somehow better
with such content. I do waive this rule at the end of each year for the
week between Christmas and New Years so our members who wish to, can state what
they offer and how to access those services or products but how a steady flow
of such information would improve the quality or animation of the list escapes
me.
This list doesn't belong to me or anyone. It belongs to all of you and if
you want unrestricted advertising on our list, let me know and if I hear from
50.1% of you that this is what you want, I'll drop that restriction.
Bob
At 06:08 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
Bob:
While I in
general support the prohibition on advertising, I thought Tim’s post was
made within the proper context for usefulness. Perhaps zero tolerance is
just a little too oppressive. It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that
the quality of the discussion has evaporated over the last several
years. Perhaps a little leeway on this issue, in a contextual
basis, would help invigorate the group and discussion a little. It is
just a suggestion in the spirit of Real Traders sharing their experiences.
Regards,
John J.
Lothian
From:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jim thompson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005
3:12 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Re: Advertising
I'm wondering Bob why we have that policy
regarding advertising. Was that something the list members voted on or just the
moderator decided on it or just how did that come into being? You're
right in that I believe the vast majority do not want this forum to be a place
where we get inundated with tons of spam advertising. But I'm sure on the other
hand many listers would be very interested in what Ira, Ben, Tim et al have to
offer. I for one am always on a continual quest to be 'educated' and I'm
willing to pay for it. Certainly we can contact them offline to find out what
each has to offer, but, likewise, often we have no idea someone has something
to offer unless they 'mention' it here. I, for one, found Tim's post very
innocuous and appreciated him letting us know 'he's back' and how to get a hold
of him and what he has to offer. The majority of spam advertisers we've
seemed to have here have been the one time blatantly hit and disappear type.
Maybe some leniency could be available to listers who have been on the forum
say for a year+, or who have posted X number of times or something similar.
jt
From: BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Advertising
I have sent two direct mails to the offenders of our
no advertising
policy in the past week warning them about violations
of this
rule. I remind everyone again that this list has
zero tolerance for
ignoring this policy and after having sent this out, I
will now
remove anyone who violates this policy without
notice. Simply put,
do not mention or brag or talk about your services or
products or
anyone else's services or products on this list unless
said products
or services are totally free without enhanced, charged
services or products.
Bob
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