| 
 Bob, 
  
I don't think any one of us want the "unristricted advertising" that you 
seem 
to think is what would exist if even a bit of "advertising" existed.  
 
  
It seems to me that if a list member asks how someone posted some 
kind 
of picture then an answer to that which referenced a commercial 
product 
should not be considered advertising. 
  
When someone of Tim's statue informs all of us of what has been going 
on and the change in character of his operation I think all of us are 
interested 
and certainly do not want to see such blocked. 
  
My list (TheSwingMachine) is strongly monitored and absolutely no direct 
 
deliberate advertsising is allowed BUT if some member wants to tell 
how 
they get a certain set of results I certainly am not going to deprive the 
rest 
of the members of this list from such information. 
  
I am convinced that blatent advertising is not advisable.  I am 
convinced 
that recommentation/information on how certain results are obtained 
are 
very valid and useful applications of posts on this list. 
  
Clyde Lee 
  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- Clyde 
Lee                 
phone: 713.783.9540 SYTECH Corporation 7910 Westglen, Suite 
105 Houston, TX  77063     fax: 
713.783.1092 WebSite:        www.theswingmachine.com- - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 08:59 
  PM 
  Subject: RE: [RT] Re: Advertising 
  
  I am in favor of invigorating the list as much as you are 
  John.  I will do anything the membership wants to do  but it will 
  take some convincing to cause me to believe that a majority of our members 
  want to see any type of advertising on this list or that the list would be 
  somehow better with such content.  I do waive this rule at the end of 
  each year for the week between Christmas and New Years so our members who wish 
  to, can state what they offer and how to access those services or products but 
  how a steady flow of such information would improve the quality or animation 
  of the list escapes me.
  This list doesn't belong to me or anyone.  
  It belongs to all of you and if you want unrestricted advertising on our list, 
  let me know and if I hear from 50.1% of you that this is what you want, I'll 
  drop that restriction.  
  Bob
 
 
  At 06:08 PM 9/26/2005, 
  you wrote:
  
  Bob:
   
  While I in general 
    support the prohibition on advertising, I thought Tim’s post was made within 
    the proper context for usefulness.  Perhaps zero tolerance is just a 
    little too oppressive.  It is my opinion, and my opinion only, that the 
    quality of the discussion has evaporated over the last several 
    years.   Perhaps a little leeway on this issue, in a contextual 
    basis, would help invigorate the group and discussion a little.  It is 
    just a suggestion in the spirit of Real Traders sharing their 
    experiences.
   
  Regards,
   
  John J. 
    Lothian
   
    
     
    From: 
    realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
    jim thompson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:12 
    PM To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RT] Re: 
    Advertising
   
  I'm wondering Bob why we have that 
    policy regarding advertising. Was that something the list members voted on 
    or just the moderator decided on it or just how did that come into 
    being?  You're right in that I believe the vast majority do not want 
    this forum to be a place where we get inundated with tons of spam 
    advertising. But I'm sure on the other hand many listers would be very 
    interested in what Ira, Ben, Tim et al have to offer. I for one am always on 
    a continual quest to be 'educated' and I'm willing to pay for it. Certainly 
    we can contact them offline to find out what each has to offer, but, 
    likewise, often we have no idea someone has something to offer unless they 
    'mention' it here. I, for one, found Tim's post very innocuous and 
    appreciated him letting us know 'he's back' and how to get a hold of him and 
    what he has to offer.  The majority of spam advertisers we've seemed to 
    have here have been the one time blatantly hit and disappear type.  
    Maybe some leniency could be available to listers who have been on the forum 
    say for a year+, or who have posted X number of times or something 
    similar.  jt 
    
 
  
      -    From: BobsKC <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
      - Subject: Advertising
  
      - I have sent two direct mails to the offenders of our no advertising 
      
 
      - policy in the past week warning them about violations of this 
 
      - rule.  I remind everyone again that this list has zero tolerance 
      for 
 
      - ignoring this policy and after having sent this out, I will now 
 
      - remove anyone who violates this policy without notice.  Simply 
      put, 
 
      - do not mention or brag or talk about your services or products or 
 
      - anyone else's services or products on this list unless said products 
      
 
      - or services are totally free without enhanced, charged services or 
      products.
  
      - Bob
 
 
 
  
      - ________________________________________________________________________
 
      - ________________________________________________________________________
 
 
  
      - ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
      - Yahoo! Groups Links
  
      - <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
 
      -     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/realtraders/
  
      - <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
 
      -     realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  
      - <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
 
      -     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 
        
      - ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
                         
  
     
    YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS 
  
     
     
   
    
  
  
  
    SPONSORED LINKS
   
       
  
 
  
    
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
 
 
    
  |