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So while you are looking, look at the 
attached.  Start toward a system.
 
The bottom graph is a PercentR (turned over) for 
the VIX.
 
Look at what it says.  This is a very short 
one.  Will take a look at a
longer one after a while.
 
Clyde
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  >From: 
  Ray 
  Raffurty 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
  
  She's worse off than me, she's working (manages a 
  Linen 'N Things store) but I'm going to fix dinner, stakes on the grill, home 
  made potato salad (my specialty) and corn on the cob.  Summer is 
  here thank God.
   
  Ray Raffurty
   
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    >From: 
    Clyde 
    Lee(SBCY) 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:21 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
    
    Yeah, do what I'm fixing to do.
     
    Take my wife down to the Galleria for 
    lunch--she is due that.
     
    I'll do a vix based system later.
     
    Clyde
     
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    Lee   
    Chairman/CEO          (Home of 
    SwingMachine)SYTECH 
    Corporation          email: <A 
    href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  7910 
    Westglen, Suite 105       
    Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
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      >From: 
      Ray 
      Raffurty 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:12 
      PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
      
      An even better idea, unfortunately I do not 
      have the software or data to test it.  I was hoping someone with the 
      time would explore it's value.  Any takers?
       
      Good luck and good trading,
       
      Ray Raffurty
       
       
      P.S.  I need a life.  It's a 
      beautiful Sunday morning, temperature in the high 60 and I'm sitting her 
      thinking about the VIX. {;-(
       
       
       
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        >From: 
        Clyde 
        Lee(SBCY) 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:37 
        AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
        
        Ray,
         
        Doing that kind of an application is a 
        "piece of cake" in Tradestation
        (any of them that is).
         
        However, I do not think that using fixed 
        values will work worth a damn.
         
        It is more likely that if you do something 
        like Larry William's  %R  (or
        whoever really invented it) to the VIX then 
        you might have something
        that would work for both entrance and 
        exit.
         
        Clyde
         
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        of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
        Corporation          email: 
        clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
        7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
        Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
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          >From: 
          Ray 
          Raffurty 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
          8:51 PM
          Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
          
          Hi Clyde,
           
          I'm not sure that this idea is ready for 
          that.  I was thinking more along the lines of something 
          simpler to begin with and explore the VIX's value as an indicator for 
          the QQQ's.  For example buying the QQQ's when VIX > 40 
          and shorting the QQQ's when VIX < 28 (or what ever 
          values back testing may show to have value).
           
          Since I don't have Trade Station, I don't 
          know how easy or difficult it is to create a buy/sell signal in 
          one index (QQQ's) based on the value of another index 
          (VIX).  If that is possible the next step would be to explore 
          exit strategies.  Since the VIX can be neutral for long 
          periods, a stop and reverse strategy would not (consistently) 
          work.  Also, since the VIX can stay above or below a given level 
          for days (or weeks), trailing stops might take out a position just 
          before it moves in the anticipated direction.
           
          Any thoughts or comments are 
          welcome.
           
          Good luck and good trading,
           
          Ray Raffurty
           
           
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            >From: 
            Clyde 
            Lee(SBCY) 
            To: <A 
            title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            
            Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
            11:34 PM
            Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
            
            Here are some pictures going back to 
            9/2000.
             
            Without doing some linear trend 
            adjusting it is tough to get these
            things so they will scale to a point 
            for comparison.
             
            I believe that if anything the QQQ is 
            leading or concurrent with
            the VIX which is EXACTLY what I would 
            expect.
             
            Clyde
             
             
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            (Home of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
            Corporation          
            email: <A 
            href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
            7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
            Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
            77063               
            Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
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              >From: 
              Ray 
              Raffurty 
              To: <A 
              title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              
              Sent: Saturday, March 15, 
              2003 12:05 PM
              Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
              
              Hi All RT's,
               
              I was struck by the high correlation 
              between the VIX and the QQQ's.  I wasn't looking for it and 
              only posted the QQQ's as an after thought.  During the last 6 
              months (shown) the VIX has been a LEADING indicator of the 
              QQQ's..  This may be because of the popularity of the QQQ's 
              with "amateur" traders who may be subject to greater pressures 
              from fear and greed.
               
              Unfortunately I do not have software 
              or enough data to back test his hypothesis and was hoping someone 
              with the time and wherewithal would do it, to confirm or 
              refute.
               
              Thanks in advance,
               
              Ray Raffurty
               
               
               
               
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                <A title=r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx 
                href="">Ray Raffurty 
                To: <A 
                title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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                Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 
                2003 1:46 AM
                Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
                
                You can get charts of VIX in 
                various time frames for free at <A 
                href="">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com
                 
                The first chart is the VIX alone to 
                create is go to the web site above, enter the symbol VIX and 
                click "Interactive Charts".  You man need to turn off some 
                default settings to get a clean chart.
                 
                The second chart is SPX compared to 
                VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol SPX 
                and click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and 
                enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
                 
                
                The third chart is NDX 
                compared to VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the 
                symbol NDX and click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off 
                any defaults and enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX.
                 
                
                The last, and perhaps most 
                interesting, chart is QQQ compared to VIX.  Go to 
                the web site above, enter the symbol QQQ and click 
                "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
                "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
                 
                As you may know VIX is a contraireian indicator and is 
                mostly neutral right now.
                 
                Hope this helps.
                 
                Good luck and good trading,
                 
                Ray Raffurty
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                  Sent: Friday, March 14, 
                  2003 3:01 PM
                  Subject: [RT] VIX
                  
                  Hi,
                   
                  Anyone what the VIX is saying 
                  right now on S&P, Nasdaq ?
                  Are we at a top or bottom 
                  ?
                  Also while we on the subject what 
                  data and software can you use to work it out ?
                  Are there any sites that 
                  regularly show updates and charts on the VIX index 
                  ?
                   
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