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Deviating just a bit, comparing the VIX and the 
cboe dollars going into calls vs puts in a $C/($C/$P) ratio where 0.50 is equal 
amounts into calls and puts.  VIX has been moving in a tight range since 
late January up through Friday 3/14.  Sentiment as measured by where the 
money is placed  has gone from overbought in January to oversold in 
February to neutral in March..  Using the w.ez-pnf.com free data on call 
and put open interest, the big jump on Thursday nulled out any open interest 
directional bias.  Some advisory services were recommending strangles and 
straddles going into the breakout of war with the expectations of a big move one 
way or the other.  Right now it looks like there is no strong bias for 
either direction.
 
bobr
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  >From: 
  Clyde 
  Lee(SBCY) 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:38 
AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
  
  So while you are looking, look at the 
  attached.  Start toward a system.
   
  The bottom graph is a PercentR (turned over) for 
  the VIX.
   
  Look at what it says.  This is a very short 
  one.  Will take a look at a
  longer one after a while.
   
  Clyde
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    >From: 
    Ray 
    Raffurty 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:50 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
    
    She's worse off than me, she's working (manages 
    a Linen 'N Things store) but I'm going to fix dinner, stakes on the grill, 
    home made potato salad (my specialty) and corn on the cob.  Summer 
    is here thank God.
     
    Ray Raffurty
     
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      >From: 
      Clyde 
      Lee(SBCY) 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:21 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
      
      Yeah, do what I'm fixing to do.
       
      Take my wife down to the Galleria for 
      lunch--she is due that.
       
      I'll do a vix based system 
later.
       
      Clyde
       
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        >From: 
        Ray 
        Raffurty 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:12 
        PM
        Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
        
        An even better idea, unfortunately I do not 
        have the software or data to test it.  I was hoping someone with 
        the time would explore it's value.  Any takers?
         
        Good luck and good trading,
         
        Ray Raffurty
         
         
        P.S.  I need a life.  It's a 
        beautiful Sunday morning, temperature in the high 60 and I'm sitting her 
        thinking about the VIX. {;-(
         
         
         
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          >From: 
          Clyde 
          Lee(SBCY) 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 
          10:37 AM
          Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
          
          Ray,
           
          Doing that kind of an application is a 
          "piece of cake" in Tradestation
          (any of them that is).
           
          However, I do not think that using fixed 
          values will work worth a damn.
           
          It is more likely that if you do 
          something like Larry William's  %R  (or
          whoever really invented it) to the VIX 
          then you might have something
          that would work for both entrance and 
          exit.
           
          Clyde
           
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          Chairman/CEO          
          (Home of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
          Corporation          
          email: <A 
          href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
          7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
          Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
          77063               
          Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
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            >From: 
            Ray 
            Raffurty 
            To: <A 
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            Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
            8:51 PM
            Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
            
            Hi Clyde,
             
            I'm not sure that this idea is ready 
            for that.  I was thinking more along the lines of 
            something simpler to begin with and explore the VIX's value as an 
            indicator for the QQQ's.  For example buying the QQQ's 
            when VIX > 40 and shorting the QQQ's when VIX < 28 
            (or what ever values back testing may show to have 
            value).
             
            Since I don't have Trade Station, I 
            don't know how easy or difficult it is to create a buy/sell 
            signal in one index (QQQ's) based on the value of another 
            index (VIX).  If that is possible the next step would be to 
            explore exit strategies.  Since the VIX can be neutral for 
            long periods, a stop and reverse strategy would not (consistently) 
            work.  Also, since the VIX can stay above or below a given 
            level for days (or weeks), trailing stops might take out a position 
            just before it moves in the 
            anticipated direction.
             
            Any thoughts or comments are 
            welcome.
             
            Good luck and good 
trading,
             
            Ray Raffurty
             
             
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              href="">Clyde Lee(SBCY) 
              To: <A 
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              Sent: Saturday, March 15, 
              2003 11:34 PM
              Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
              
              Here are some pictures going back to 
              9/2000.
               
              Without doing some linear trend 
              adjusting it is tough to get these
              things so they will scale to a point 
              for comparison.
               
              I believe that if anything the QQQ is 
              leading or concurrent with
              the VIX which is EXACTLY what I would 
              expect.
               
              Clyde
               
               
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              (Home of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
              Corporation          
              email: <A 
              href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
              7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
              Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  
              TX  
              77063               
              Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
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                <A title=r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx 
                href="">Ray Raffurty 
                To: <A 
                title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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                Sent: Saturday, March 15, 
                2003 12:05 PM
                Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
                
                Hi All RT's,
                 
                I was struck by the high 
                correlation between the VIX and the QQQ's.  I wasn't 
                looking for it and only posted the QQQ's as an after 
                thought.  During the last 6 months (shown) the VIX has been 
                a LEADING indicator of the QQQ's..  This may be because of 
                the popularity of the QQQ's with "amateur" traders who may be 
                subject to greater pressures from fear and greed.
                 
                Unfortunately I do not have 
                software or enough data to back test his hypothesis and was 
                hoping someone with the time and wherewithal would do it, to 
                confirm or refute.
                 
                Thanks in advance,
                 
                Ray Raffurty
                 
                 
                 
                 
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                  <A title=r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx 
                  href="">Ray Raffurty 
                  To: <A 
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                  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 
                  2003 1:46 AM
                  Subject: Re: [RT] 
                  VIX
                  
                  You can get charts of VIX in 
                  various time frames for free at <A 
                  href="">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com
                   
                  The first chart is the VIX alone 
                  to create is go to the web site above, enter the symbol VIX 
                  and click "Interactive Charts".  You man need to turn off 
                  some default settings to get a clean chart.
                   
                  The second chart is SPX compared 
                  to VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the 
                  symbol SPX and click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off 
                  any defaults and enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX 
.
                   
                  
                  The third chart is NDX 
                  compared to VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the 
                  symbol NDX and click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off 
                  any defaults and enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX.
                   
                  
                  The last, and perhaps most 
                  interesting, chart is QQQ compared to VIX.  Go 
                  to the web site above, enter the symbol QQQ and click 
                  "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
                  "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
                   
                  As you may know VIX is a contraireian indicator and is 
                  mostly neutral right now.
                   
                  Hope this helps.
                   
                  Good luck and good trading,
                   
                  Ray Raffurty
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                    href="">MOJO 
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                    Sent: Friday, March 14, 
                    2003 3:01 PM
                    Subject: [RT] VIX
                    
                    Hi,
                     
                    Anyone what the VIX is saying 
                    right now on S&P, Nasdaq ?
                    Are we at a top or bottom 
                    ?
                    Also while we on the subject 
                    what data and software can you use to work it out 
                    ?
                    Are there any sites that 
                    regularly show updates and charts on the VIX index 
                    ?
                     
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