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She's worse off than me, she's working (manages a 
Linen 'N Things store) but I'm going to fix dinner, stakes on the grill, home 
made potato salad (my specialty) and corn on the cob.  Summer is here 
thank God.
 
Ray Raffurty
 
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  >From: 
  Clyde 
  Lee(SBCY) 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:21 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
  
  Yeah, do what I'm fixing to do.
   
  Take my wife down to the Galleria for lunch--she 
  is due that.
   
  I'll do a vix based system later.
   
  Clyde
   
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    >From: 
    Ray 
    Raffurty 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:12 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
    
    An even better idea, unfortunately I do not 
    have the software or data to test it.  I was hoping someone with the 
    time would explore it's value.  Any takers?
     
    Good luck and good trading,
     
    Ray Raffurty
     
     
    P.S.  I need a life.  It's a 
    beautiful Sunday morning, temperature in the high 60 and I'm sitting her 
    thinking about the VIX. {;-(
     
     
     
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      >From: 
      Clyde 
      Lee(SBCY) 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:37 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
      
      Ray,
       
      Doing that kind of an application is a "piece 
      of cake" in Tradestation
      (any of them that is).
       
      However, I do not think that using fixed 
      values will work worth a damn.
       
      It is more likely that if you do something 
      like Larry William's  %R  (or
      whoever really invented it) to the VIX then 
      you might have something
      that would work for both entrance and 
      exit.
       
      Clyde
       
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      -Clyde Lee   
      Chairman/CEO          (Home 
      of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
      Corporation          email: 
      clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
      7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
      Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
      77063               
      Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
      at:                      
      www.theswingmachine.com- 
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        >From: 
        Ray 
        Raffurty 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:51 
        PM
        Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
        
        Hi Clyde,
         
        I'm not sure that this idea is ready for 
        that.  I was thinking more along the lines of something 
        simpler to begin with and explore the VIX's value as an indicator for 
        the QQQ's.  For example buying the QQQ's when VIX > 40 
        and shorting the QQQ's when VIX < 28 (or what ever 
        values back testing may show to have value).
         
        Since I don't have Trade Station, I don't 
        know how easy or difficult it is to create a buy/sell signal in one 
        index (QQQ's) based on the value of another index (VIX).  
        If that is possible the next step would be to explore exit 
        strategies.  Since the VIX can be neutral for long periods, a 
        stop and reverse strategy would not (consistently) work.  Also, 
        since the VIX can stay above or below a given level for days (or weeks), 
        trailing stops might take out a position just before it moves 
        in the anticipated direction.
         
        Any thoughts or comments are 
        welcome.
         
        Good luck and good trading,
         
        Ray Raffurty
         
         
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          >From: 
          Clyde 
          Lee(SBCY) 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
          11:34 PM
          Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
          
          Here are some pictures going back to 
          9/2000.
           
          Without doing some linear trend adjusting 
          it is tough to get these
          things so they will scale to a point for 
          comparison.
           
          I believe that if anything the QQQ is 
          leading or concurrent with
          the VIX which is EXACTLY what I would 
          expect.
           
          Clyde
           
           
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          Chairman/CEO          
          (Home of SwingMachine)SYTECH 
          Corporation          
          email: <A 
          href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
          7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
          Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
          77063               
          Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
          at:                      
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          href="">www.theswingmachine.com- 
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            >From: 
            Ray 
            Raffurty 
            To: <A 
            title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            
            Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
            12:05 PM
            Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
            
            Hi All RT's,
             
            I was struck by the high correlation 
            between the VIX and the QQQ's.  I wasn't looking for it and 
            only posted the QQQ's as an after thought.  During the last 6 
            months (shown) the VIX has been a LEADING indicator of the 
            QQQ's..  This may be because of the popularity of the QQQ's 
            with "amateur" traders who may be subject to greater pressures from 
            fear and greed.
             
            Unfortunately I do not have software or 
            enough data to back test his hypothesis and was hoping someone with 
            the time and wherewithal would do it, to confirm or 
            refute.
             
            Thanks in advance,
             
            Ray Raffurty
             
             
             
             
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              >From: 
              Ray 
              Raffurty 
              To: <A 
              title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              
              Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 
              1:46 AM
              Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
              
              You can get charts of VIX in various 
              time frames for free at <A 
              href="">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com
               
              The first chart is the VIX alone to 
              create is go to the web site above, enter the symbol VIX and click 
              "Interactive Charts".  You man need to turn off some default 
              settings to get a clean chart.
               
              The second chart is SPX compared to 
              VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol SPX and 
              click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
              "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
               
              
              The third chart is NDX compared 
              to VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol NDX 
              and click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and 
              enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX.
               
              
              The last, and perhaps most 
              interesting, chart is QQQ compared to VIX.  Go to 
              the web site above, enter the symbol QQQ and click 
              "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
              "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
               
              As you may know VIX is a contraireian indicator and is mostly 
              neutral right now.
               
              Hope this helps.
               
              Good luck and good trading,
               
              Ray Raffurty
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                <A title=groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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                Sent: Friday, March 14, 
                2003 3:01 PM
                Subject: [RT] VIX
                
                Hi,
                 
                Anyone what the VIX is saying right 
                now on S&P, Nasdaq ?
                Are we at a top or bottom 
                ?
                Also while we on the subject what 
                data and software can you use to work it out ?
                Are there any sites that regularly 
                show updates and charts on the VIX index ?
                 
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