[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [RT] VIX



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links




Ray,
 
Doing that kind of an application is a "piece of 
cake" in Tradestation
(any of them that is).
 
However, I do not think that using fixed values 
will work worth a damn.
 
It is more likely that if you do something like 
Larry William's  %R  (or
whoever really invented it) to the VIX then you 
might have something
that would work for both entrance and 
exit.
 
Clyde
 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - -Clyde 
Lee   
Chairman/CEO          (Home of 
SwingMachine)SYTECH 
Corporation          email: <A 
href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  7910 
Westglen, Suite 105       
Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
77063               
Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
at:                      
www.theswingmachine.com- - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -
<BLOCKQUOTE 
>
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Ray 
  Raffurty 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:51 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
  
  Hi Clyde,
   
  I'm not sure that this idea is ready for 
  that.  I was thinking more along the lines of something simpler to 
  begin with and explore the VIX's value as an indicator for the QQQ's.  
  For example buying the QQQ's when VIX > 40 and shorting the 
  QQQ's when VIX < 28 (or what ever values back testing may show to 
  have value).
   
  Since I don't have Trade Station, I don't know 
  how easy or difficult it is to create a buy/sell signal in one index 
  (QQQ's) based on the value of another index (VIX).  If that is 
  possible the next step would be to explore exit strategies.  Since the 
  VIX can be neutral for long periods, a stop and reverse strategy would 
  not (consistently) work.  Also, since the VIX can stay above or below a 
  given level for days (or weeks), trailing stops might take out a position just 
  before it moves in the anticipated direction.
   
  Any thoughts or comments are 
welcome.
   
  Good luck and good trading,
   
  Ray Raffurty
   
   
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  >
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    Clyde 
    Lee(SBCY) 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:34 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
    
    Here are some pictures going back to 
    9/2000.
     
    Without doing some linear trend adjusting it is 
    tough to get these
    things so they will scale to a point for 
    comparison.
     
    I believe that if anything the QQQ is leading 
    or concurrent with
    the VIX which is EXACTLY what I would 
    expect.
     
    Clyde
     
     
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - -Clyde 
    Lee   
    Chairman/CEO          (Home of 
    SwingMachine)SYTECH 
    Corporation          email: <A 
    href="">clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  7910 
    Westglen, Suite 105       
    Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
    77063               
    Fax:    (713) 783-1092Details 
    at:                      
    www.theswingmachine.com- - 
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - -
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    >
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      >From: 
      Ray 
      Raffurty 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:05 
      PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
      
      Hi All RT's,
       
      I was struck by the high correlation between 
      the VIX and the QQQ's.  I wasn't looking for it and only posted the 
      QQQ's as an after thought.  During the last 6 months (shown) the VIX 
      has been a LEADING indicator of the QQQ's..  This may be because of 
      the popularity of the QQQ's with "amateur" traders who may be subject to 
      greater pressures from fear and greed.
       
      Unfortunately I do not have software or 
      enough data to back test his hypothesis and was hoping someone with the 
      time and wherewithal would do it, to confirm or refute.
       
      Thanks in advance,
       
      Ray Raffurty
       
       
       
       
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      >
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        <DIV 
        >From: 
        Ray 
        Raffurty 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:46 
        AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
        
        You can get charts of VIX in various time 
        frames for free at <A 
        href="">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com
         
        The first chart is the VIX alone to create 
        is go to the web site above, enter the symbol VIX and click "Interactive 
        Charts".  You man need to turn off some default settings to get a 
        clean chart.
         
        The second chart is SPX compared to 
        VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol SPX and click 
        "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter "Compare To" 
        "Symbol" VIX .
         
        
        The third chart is NDX compared to 
        VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol NDX and click 
        "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter "Compare To" 
        "Symbol" VIX.
         
        
        The last, and perhaps most 
        interesting, chart is QQQ compared to VIX.  Go to the web 
        site above, enter the symbol QQQ and click "Interactive 
        Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX 
        .
         
        As you may know VIX is a contraireian indicator and is mostly 
        neutral right now.
         
        Hope this helps.
         
        Good luck and good trading,
         
        Ray Raffurty
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        >
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          <DIV 
          >From: 
          <A title=groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">MOJO 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:01 
          PM
          Subject: [RT] VIX
          
          Hi,
           
          Anyone what the VIX is saying right now 
          on S&P, Nasdaq ?
          Are we at a top or bottom ?
          Also while we on the subject what data 
          and software can you use to work it out ?
          Are there any sites that regularly show 
          updates and charts on the VIX index ?
           
          ThanksTo 
          unsubscribe from this group, send an email 
          to:realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYour 
          use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A 
          href="">Yahoo! Terms of 
          Service. To unsubscribe from this 
        group, send an email 
        to:realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYour 
        use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A 
        href="">Yahoo! Terms of 
        Service. To unsubscribe from this 
      group, send an email 
      to:realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYour 
      use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A 
      href="">Yahoo! Terms of Service. 
      To unsubscribe from this group, send an email 
    to:realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYour 
    use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A 
    href="">Yahoo! Terms of Service. 
    To 
  unsubscribe from this group, send an email 
  to:realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYour 
  use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A 
  href="">Yahoo! Terms of Service. 







Yahoo! Groups Sponsor


  ADVERTISEMENT









To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.