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An even better idea, unfortunately I do not have 
the software or data to test it.  I was hoping someone with the time would 
explore it's value.  Any takers?
 
Good luck and good trading,
 
Ray Raffurty
 
 
P.S.  I need a life.  It's a beautiful 
Sunday morning, temperature in the high 60 and I'm sitting her thinking about 
the VIX. {;-(
 
 
 
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  Clyde 
  Lee(SBCY) 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
  
  Ray,
   
  Doing that kind of an application is a "piece of 
  cake" in Tradestation
  (any of them that is).
   
  However, I do not think that using fixed values 
  will work worth a damn.
   
  It is more likely that if you do something like 
  Larry William's  %R  (or
  whoever really invented it) to the VIX then you 
  might have something
  that would work for both entrance and 
  exit.
   
  Clyde
   
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    >From: 
    Ray 
    Raffurty 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:51 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
    
    Hi Clyde,
     
    I'm not sure that this idea is ready for 
    that.  I was thinking more along the lines of something simpler to 
    begin with and explore the VIX's value as an indicator for the QQQ's.  
    For example buying the QQQ's when VIX > 40 and shorting the 
    QQQ's when VIX < 28 (or what ever values back testing may show 
    to have value).
     
    Since I don't have Trade Station, I don't know 
    how easy or difficult it is to create a buy/sell signal in one index 
    (QQQ's) based on the value of another index (VIX).  If that 
    is possible the next step would be to explore exit strategies.  Since 
    the VIX can be neutral for long periods, a stop and reverse strategy 
    would not (consistently) work.  Also, since the VIX can stay above or 
    below a given level for days (or weeks), trailing stops might take out a 
    position just before it moves in the 
    anticipated direction.
     
    Any thoughts or comments are 
    welcome.
     
    Good luck and good trading,
     
    Ray Raffurty
     
     
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      >From: 
      Clyde 
      Lee(SBCY) 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:34 
      PM
      Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
      
      Here are some pictures going back to 
      9/2000.
       
      Without doing some linear trend adjusting it 
      is tough to get these
      things so they will scale to a point for 
      comparison.
       
      I believe that if anything the QQQ is leading 
      or concurrent with
      the VIX which is EXACTLY what I would 
      expect.
       
      Clyde
       
       
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      clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
      7910 Westglen, Suite 105       
      Office:    (713) 783-9540Houston,  TX  
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        >From: 
        Ray 
        Raffurty 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 
        12:05 PM
        Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
        
        Hi All RT's,
         
        I was struck by the high correlation 
        between the VIX and the QQQ's.  I wasn't looking for it and only 
        posted the QQQ's as an after thought.  During the last 6 months 
        (shown) the VIX has been a LEADING indicator of the QQQ's..  This 
        may be because of the popularity of the QQQ's with "amateur" traders who 
        may be subject to greater pressures from fear and greed.
         
        Unfortunately I do not have software or 
        enough data to back test his hypothesis and was hoping someone with the 
        time and wherewithal would do it, to confirm or refute.
         
        Thanks in advance,
         
        Ray Raffurty
         
         
         
         
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          >From: 
          Ray 
          Raffurty 
          To: <A 
          title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          
          Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 
          1:46 AM
          Subject: Re: [RT] VIX
          
          You can get charts of VIX in various time 
          frames for free at <A 
          href="">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com
           
          The first chart is the VIX alone to 
          create is go to the web site above, enter the symbol VIX and click 
          "Interactive Charts".  You man need to turn off some default 
          settings to get a clean chart.
           
          The second chart is SPX compared to 
          VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol SPX and 
          click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
          "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX .
           
          
          The third chart is NDX compared to 
          VIX.  Go to the web site above, enter the symbol NDX and 
          click "Interactive Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter 
          "Compare To" "Symbol" VIX.
           
          
          The last, and perhaps most 
          interesting, chart is QQQ compared to VIX.  Go to the 
          web site above, enter the symbol QQQ and click "Interactive 
          Charts".  Turn off any defaults and enter "Compare To" "Symbol" 
          VIX .
           
          As you may know VIX is a contraireian indicator and is mostly 
          neutral right now.
           
          Hope this helps.
           
          Good luck and good trading,
           
          Ray Raffurty
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            <A title=groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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            Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 
            3:01 PM
            Subject: [RT] VIX
            
            Hi,
             
            Anyone what the VIX is saying right now 
            on S&P, Nasdaq ?
            Are we at a top or bottom 
?
            Also while we on the subject what data 
            and software can you use to work it out ?
            Are there any sites that regularly show 
            updates and charts on the VIX index ?
             
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