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Re: [RT] Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call



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Hi John,
 
The original chart from OptionsXpress that I 
posted on Sunday did show the March 15 CCC call, however I believe it was the 
result of bad data.  If you look at that chart, copied here, you will see 
that the percentages for CCC are way out of line with what you would 
expect.  This was the first clue that something was wrong.
 
Good luck and good trading,
 
Ray Raffurty
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  John Cappello 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:59 
  PM
  Subject: [RT] Fedback-This Week's Most 
  Unusual Covered Call
  Dear Ray,You mention Option Express...I went there 
  in the beginning and punched in for the C chain. Believe it or not, it did 
  show the hodgde podge Call...inconsistently...which I thought was based on 
  low volume.Sincerely,John------------------ 
  Reply Separator --------------------Originally From: "Ray Raffurty" <<A 
  href="">r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>Subject: Re: 
  [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered CallDate: 03/08/2003 
  05:59pmCorrection:  The cash in lieu of 0.30422 share of 
  Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus 
  cash in lieu of 0.84326 share of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class B 
  will be a lot more than what I said since TAP.A is at is at $14.40 and B 
  is at 14.44.  Sorry, but it will be around $16.20 per 
  contract.Good luck and good tradingRay 
  Raffurty  ----- Original Message -----   From: Ray 
  Raffurty   To: John Cappello ; realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   
  Cc: MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:40 
  PM  Subject: [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered 
  Call  Hi John,  If you purchased 100 shares of C 
  and sold 1CLTCC call your are NOT  completely covered.  In 
  August of 2002 Citigroup spun off it's Travelers  Insurance 
  division <A 
  href="">http://www.citi.com/citigroup/press/020820a.htm 
  and  distributed the Traveler shares to owners of Citigroup stock 
  in the ratio  described at  <A 
  href="">http://www.cboe.com/common/pageviewer.asp?file=02-454.doc&dir=ttstocksm&head  
  =stock%20splits%20%26%20mergers&sec=5  Since options, 
  including the March 15 CCC calls, where trading at the time  
  those contracts had to be adjusted to include the shares distributed and 
  the  option symbols where changed to as the LT thus CLTCC is a 
  nonconforming  option.  At the time of the distribution a 
  new series was created for  options sold after that date without 
  the LT symbol to indicate 100 shares of  Citigroup only.  In 
  other words if you owned 100 shares of C in early August  2002 
  and sold (1) 15 CCC call you would be required to deliver both the 
  100  Citigroup shares PLUS the shares of Travelers you received, if 
  exercised,  and the symbol was changer to CLTCC.  After the 
  distribution date if you  purchased 100 shares of C and sold 1 
  CCC 15 call you would be covered.  As  far as I know the 
  unusual option symbol is always the nonconforming one.  If 
  you look at the attached chart you will see that in every case the 
  option  with the LT designation is trading at a higher bid and ask 
  for the same  strike than the option without the LT.  This 
  occurs because the value of the  options are determined by adding 
  the value of the various Travelers shares  to the 100 Citigroup 
  shares.  I don't what Smith Barney told you but CLTCC is a 15 
  strike, it's just for  more than 100 shares 
  (nonconforming).  If you go to the OptionXpress web  site 
  and go to the calls only option chain you can check a box to show 
  the  nonconforming options.  If the box is checked the LT series 
  shows and if it  is not checked they don't show.  I 
  believe the quote you got over the week end on CCC was erroneous.  
  There  may not even be a market in that option currently (in is no 
  longer showing  up).  It is possible that the data from 
  which the various option chains are  created had defaulted to an 
  old quote when it found no new prices.  Also,  when you use 
  a website to search for option yielding a high % on covered  
  calls you must be very careful.  They often do not screen out 
  nonconforming  options but calculate the % gain based on 100 
  shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I  have been burned this way and 
  learned to check the CBOE's web site when  something looks to 
  good.  If you entered an order to sell CCC, I would question why 
  your broker  substituted the nonconforming CLTCC and demand it be 
  undone.  He should have  rejected the order or given you the 
  price on CCC.  If, however, you entered  the order to sell 
  CLTCC you need to either close the trade before expiration  or 
  plan to purchase the various Traveler's shares required to be 
  covered  (more commissions).  In this case, perhaps your 
  kindly old broker will undo  the trade..., NOT.  You can 
  always do nothing, but you will be short  Travelers on 2/24/03 after 
  the options are exercised.  You can then buy to  close the 
  short, but the market has a way of moving to make this the worst  
  possible outcome, not to mention additional commissions.  The 
  short will be:   4 shares of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. 
  Class A  ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus 8 shares of Travelers 
  Property Casualty Corp.  Class B ("TAP.B") Common Stock; plus 
  cash in lieu of 0.30422 share of  Travelers Property Casualty 
  Corp. Class A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus cash  in lieu of 
  0.84326 share of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class B  
  ("TAP.B") Common Stock.  Also notice that there are 2 "cash in 
  lieu of" components.  This means you  will need to pay out 
  that cash to the option holder ($1.15 per contract).  This cash 
  is probably to adjust for fractional shares that where  distributed, 
  but which could not be accounted for otherwise.  I think the odds 
  are against you on this and you will be lucky if you only  take a 
  small loss.  Unfortunately the market does not hand out money 
  this  way.  Occasional there will be small discrepancies in 
  option price to stock  price, pennies or less.  Then 
  professionals will move quickly on volume and  low commissions to 
  close the discrepancy.  Good luck and good trading,  
  Ray Raffurty  ----- Original Message -----  From: 
  "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>  To: "Ray Raffurty" 
  <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
  Cc: <MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 
  2:07 PM  Subject: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered 
  Call  > Dear Ray,  >  > I just did 
  a double check with Smith Barney and the correct symbol  > for the 
  $15 strike price is CLTCC.... which is what I sold. Options  > 
  Express also confirms this. The other designations just further  > 
  describe the Travelers acquisition from last year...and have 
  nothing  > to do with pricing other than history.  
  >  > When I first looked at this trade, the $17.50 strike price 
  was in the  > profit mode to sell the call and buy the 
  stock...that is now close to  > parity.  
  >  > Hope this helps.  >  > 
  Sincerely,  >  > John  >  
  >  >  >  > ------------------ Reply 
  Separator --------------------  > Originally From: "Ray Raffurty" 
  <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>  > Subject: Re: [RT] This Week's Most 
  Unusual Covered Call  > Date: 03/08/2003 06:54am  
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